Dark Storm 23 Posted November 11, 2023 As I posted in our sub forum. Pistol braces are back thanks to a new nationwide injunction. For the legal geeks out there, here is a copy of the injunction. https://will-law.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/177116400067.pdf We started shipping firearm non-NFAs with magpul and SB braces today. Check your favorite DSI dealer next week. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFDagger 3 Posted December 28, 2023 Is there any new news or updates on this issue? I noticed my LGS still doesn’t sell their Others with a stock… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Storm 23 Posted December 28, 2023 No changes, the injunction is still in effect. Maybe the store does not know or they are just scared. Can't speak for them. We are shipping, albeit at a lower volume than before the ban went into effect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,922 Posted December 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, TFDagger said: Is there any new news or updates on this issue? I noticed my LGS still doesn’t sell their Others with a stock… An 'other' with a stock would be an SBR. That's the whole point of a pistol brace. It is not a stock. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Storm 23 Posted December 28, 2023 Just now, Mr.Stu said: An 'other' with a stock would be an SBR. That's the whole point of a pistol brace. It is not a stock. Yes, it would be an SBR. I assumed he was referring to braces. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFDagger 3 Posted December 28, 2023 Yes pistol brace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,922 Posted December 28, 2023 Just now, Dark Storm said: Yes, it would be an SBR. I assumed he was referring to braces. I guessed so too, but words have meanings and we are constantly under attack from the gun banners using the tactic of changing language to suit their purposes. I am constantly irritated by people, even those who are supposedly on our side, saying that people are killed BY guns. They are not killed BY a gun. They are killed BY a person WITH a gun. However, by subtly changing the language, the gun becomes the evil thing, not the person wielding it, and so gun bans gain support. How about banning evil people? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TFDagger 3 Posted December 28, 2023 It seemed pretty obvious based on the topic and the context, but YMMV. Let’s keep this thread focused on the topic of PISTOL BRACE updates here in NJ. Appreciate your response Dark Storm and keep up the good work for us here in NJ! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,156 Posted December 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, TFDagger said: I noticed my LGS still doesn’t sell their Others with a stock… As long as folks keep calling braces, stocks, the left will want to ban them even more. Look, nobody here is stupid, we all know what's up with these "braces" that are not an SBR. It doesn't help when people foolishly call them stocks. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted December 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, TFDagger said: It seemed pretty obvious based on the topic and the context, but YMMV. “Obvious” is reading the words you wrote and believing you said what you meant to say. ”Obvious” is not inferring meaning or making corrections to a written statement based on “context”. Like @Mr.Stu said, words have meaning. We should all strive to be precise - especially when talking about a topic that hinges solely on the exact definitions of the words “stock” and “brace”. Using those terms interchangeably and basing the definition of either of them on “context” is how we got here in the first place. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted December 28, 2023 If it quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's a duck. Let's be real here. Nobody uses a brace on their arm, except the guy without one. And to be clear, I am against all NFA laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Stu 1,922 Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, PK90 said: If it quacks like a duck, and walks like a duck, it's a duck. Which leads to the uninformed believing that the AR-15 is the same as the M16. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites