Joeybones 1 Posted December 26, 2009 On November 20, 2009, Governor Corzine signed A-3207 into law as P.L. 2009, c.163. The new law takes effect June 1, 2010. The new law prohibits the sale of certain novelty lighters. Under the law, a person shall not sell, or offer to sell, a Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bbk 188 Posted December 26, 2009 Wow, how are politicians such idiots? I'm assuming this law is to curb underage smoking, and smoking in general. So, I guess if they take away all the novelty lighters that may attract children, it will somehow lower the amount of underage smoking? Does this mean the number of house fires might increase due to the increase in people lighting their cigs via stove stop? Does it mean that the rate of shoplifting of petty items (like BIC lighters and matchboxes) will increase? The only way to solve these problems is through education. Sure, it might cost extra, or might take a bit more time out of the adult supervision's life to educate their kids.... but uh, that works. This is so retarded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted December 26, 2009 If you ask me it is just another way for the demacrats to get more money from you. here is what i would like to know, where does the money go from that fine? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Springfield1911 22 Posted December 26, 2009 Im so glad the politicians here in NJ are spending their time on much needed legislation about some f**king lighters. Thank you so much. Our streets are so much safer now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted December 26, 2009 If I catch one of my little lambs confiscating someone's flashing lighter, he's going to get a kick in the taint. :twisted: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coldsolderjoint 84 Posted December 26, 2009 We better stock up on those rifle lighters that they sell at Dick's.. They wont be able to sell them pretty soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
223lover 9 Posted December 27, 2009 Actually, the legistaltion is aimed at small children who find lighter attractive becasue they light up, make noise, blink or resemble some other toy a child is familiar with. Children are not the only ones fooled by novelty lighters. Beaverton, Michigan, resident Laura Fowler purchased a novelty lighter for her 4-year-old child after mistaking it for a toy. In 2006, a South Carolina woman shot herself in the hand while attempting to light a cigarette with what she thought was a pistol-shaped novelty lighter. A fire marshal in Wisconsin was making a purchase at a local home improvement store when his 12-year-old daughter picked up what she believed was a tape measure. When she clicked the button on the tape measure, a flame came out. Fortunately, the child was not hurt, and the store owner voluntarily stopped selling the lighters. In North Carolina, a 6-year-old boy sustained second-degree burns after playing with a lighter that looked like a toy cell phone. In Maryland, playground equipment was set on fire by three 5-year-old girls using a gun-shaped lighter. In Oregon, one child died and another was permanently brain damaged after a 6-year-old, playing with a lighter that looked like a toy dolphin, started a fire. In another incident, a mother was severely burned after her child, playing with a lighter that resembled a Christmas tree, ignited the mother's bed. So we are not trying to take away your Winchester lighter you bought at Dick's, but rather we are trying to keep little Johnny from gettting it, going into the closet to play with it and setting your favorite blue suit on fire. Rich Cook Fire Marshal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted December 27, 2009 These are all iresponsible people.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melgamatic 66 Posted December 27, 2009 So we are not trying to take away your Winchester lighter you bought at Dick's, but rather we are trying to keep little Johnny from gettting it, going into the closet to play with it and setting your favorite blue suit on fire. Five anecdotes about people doing anything is not enough to enact any law. If you follow this improper logic, you will make gas stoves illegal because a bunch of people light their houses on fire or suffocate themselves trying to heat their homes with their ovens, and you'll make Christmas trees illegal because a few people light themselves on fire with overloaded extension cords. Actually, you should make extension cords illegal because a few stupid people overload them every year and cause fires. Which cause more fires: novelty lighters or cheap extension cords? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted December 27, 2009 Which cause more fires: novelty lighters or cheap extension cords? irresponsible people. "those who lack common sense" like the lady who tried to light a cigarette with a gun. :roll: she probably tried to commit suicide and missed. unfortanatly our goverment would rather punish everyone for a few irresponsible people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coldsolderjoint 84 Posted December 27, 2009 Idk.. it sounds like stupid parents to me.. I had matches and lighters as a kid.. and never managed to set anything on fire that I didn't want on fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Melgamatic 66 Posted December 27, 2009 Which cause more fires: novelty lighters or cheap extension cords? irresponsible people. "those who lack common sense" Yes, that was my point, although sarcasm is hard to transmit in forums.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted December 27, 2009 Idk.. it sounds like stupid parents to me.. I had matches and lighters as a kid.. and never managed to set anything on fire that I didn't want on fire. :clap: :clap: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted December 28, 2009 Which cause more fires: novelty lighters or cheap extension cords? irresponsible people. "those who lack common sense" Yes, that was my point, although sarcasm is hard to transmit in forums.... I have the same problem Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted December 28, 2009 went to cabelas today and every table that had room on it had those gun lighters on them, shotgun's,ar's,pistols you name it they had it.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted December 28, 2009 This was passed with OGAM. :roll: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites