BlackOps Badger 52 Posted October 8, 2011 So, I just picked up a 1923 Izzy Mosin Nagant. Now here's what has me confused. Since it was made in 1923 that would tell me that it's a M91. The thing is, it has the globe front sight, and flat rear sight. Tell me what you think. Is it just an M91 that was upgraded to a M91/30, or do I have something else? Using another website, it seems I may have a Dragoon. I don't know though. Somebody gimmie a hand figuring this out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted October 8, 2011 It's an ex Dragoon 91/30 M91s are an inch or two longer than Dragoons and both would still have the serrated sight base. Yours has the smooth style sight base which was done when it was arsenal converted to a 91/30. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted October 8, 2011 yep, Ex dragoon. It started life as an M91, then sometime after 1930 it was chopped and upgraded to 91/30 model. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
junkmanted 54 Posted October 9, 2011 That is a great looking Ex Dragoon !! I would have snatched that one up also. A dragoon is a rare find ! The one I have cost me less then any Mosin I have but is worth the most . Dragoon Tula - K in a circle stamp point of aim proof, (D) stamp Barrel throat opened for Finnish D166 cartridge, also Concentric "00" Accuracy proof stamp on Barrel shank. Heres a picture of the site and yes its about the same size as a 91/30 I keep my grand mothers quilted blankets in the wood box Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackOps Badger 52 Posted October 9, 2011 It really is a beautiful rifle. Even with the cosmo still on it. Can't wait to get it all cleaned off. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedicYeti 96 Posted October 9, 2011 Where did you get it? Good find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackOps Badger 52 Posted October 9, 2011 Where did you get it? Good find. Butch's Gun World. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Murphy4570 15 Posted October 10, 2011 Butch's Gun World. That's where I got my 1926 Izhevsk Ex-Dragoon and my 1943 Izhevsk M91/30. I am going to get a M44 there sometime. They had a T53 (Chinese M44) in there last time I was there for $250. I should have picked it up, but want a true Communist Soviet carbine. Yours still has the M91 sling slots with screws, not the press-in M91/30 ones. That, along with the 1923 receiver shows that it was a Dragoon. During overhaul the Soviets swapped the newer sights onto it. If you can find the old M91 sights (not likely), you could raise the value of the rifle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlackOps Badger 52 Posted October 10, 2011 That's where I got my 1926 Izhevsk Ex-Dragoon and my 1943 Izhevsk M91/30. I am going to get a M44 there sometime. They had a T53 (Chinese M44) in there last time I was there for $250. I should have picked it up, but want a true Communist Soviet carbine. Yours still has the M91 sling slots with screws, not the press-in M91/30 ones. That, along with the 1923 receiver shows that it was a Dragoon. During overhaul the Soviets swapped the newer sights onto it. If you can find the old M91 sights (not likely), you could raise the value of the rifle. I was at Butch's on Saturday, and I don't think they had any M44's there. However there was a pretty nice 91/30 there. It's round receiver and I believe it was an Izzy. Not positive on the make though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites