any fn five/seven users?

[david8613 69]

any fn five/seven users?

[Urban Grunt 44]

What's your question ?

[david8613 69]

been reading some pretty positive things about this gun, but I haven't seen any on this site, or this state for that matter. I'm wondering if anyone has one and what's there opinion on a pretty cool gun.

[Vlad G 345]

So why do you think it is a cool gun?

[david8613 69]

for one its very light, uses a unique round with good ballaistics, and from what i have read it has very low recoil. plus it looks very different externally and internally, especially how the barrel and spring is all in one unit, feed ramp is different, safety is towards the front insteadvof the back.

[Vlad G 345]

It weighs as much as a glock 19, the ballistics of the round are interesting only with ammo you can't buy, and lots of things have low recoil without using an exotic round that costs twice as much as 9mm and can't be effectively reload it. Different is not always good, the safety is in the completely wrong spot. Oh and it costs $1000 for a gun you can't use with the ammo it was designed for. But that is my take, and people can disagree and still both be right, so if you like one, go right ahead.

[Urban Grunt 44]

The only true way to find the right gun for yourself is to handle and fire one.

[LorenzoS 100]

Vlad has it right. Plus, with a 15 round limit the supposed benefit of ultra high capacity from the tiny round is lost. If you just like it and want it then more power to you, but as a practical matter it doesn't do anything better, and several things worse, than more conventional polymer pistols.

[tommy3rd 132]

the ballistics of the round are interesting only with ammo you can't buy

what does that even mean? The ammo is not hard to buy or find.

 

Different is not always good, the safety is in the completely wrong spot.

just because it's in a different spot than where you are used to, it doesn't mean it's wrong. It's actually easy to operate the safety.

 

Oh and it costs $1000 for a gun you can't use with the ammo it was designed for.

huh?

[Maksim 1,504]

gun was designed for the Armor Piercing , hot hot hot rounds.

 

That ammo was banned from import, so FNH released new ammo which was highly toned down.

 

I have shot the FiveSeven, my personal opinion, the recoil was not that low, and in fact felt a bit snappy. Most of all, felt a little toooooo plasticy. (_{I'd rather have a glock)}

[Vlad G 345]

The 5.7x28 cartridge and the guns that fire it were designed with a high speed small armor piercing bullet in mind. Their purpose was to penetrate body armor at close range. However the armor piercing ammunition it was designed for is not available for sale in the US to civilians which means you can only use the standard full metal jacket ammo which is fine for plinking but misses the point of the design.

 

As for the safety, if you think it is the right spot, more power to you, I maintain it is in the very wrong place.

[RubberBullets 65]

I think he's referring to the Military round that is illegal for civilians to own. It is presumed by the ATF to be armor piercing. Im guessing thats the ballistics round that did exceptional.

[Vlad G 345]

Oh, also it is a VERY high pressure cartridge, basically rifle level of pressure in a plastic handgun. When they let go, they REALLY let go, check out this thread:

 

[Maksim 1,504]

Oh, also it is a VERY high pressure cartridge, basically rifle level of pressure in a plastic handgun. When they let go, they REALLY let go, check out this thread:

 

 

Wow... even a glock KB is not that Epic!

[halbautomatisch 60]

The 5.7x28 cartridge and the guns that fire it were designed with a high speed small armor piercing bullet in mind. Their purpose was to penetrate body armor at close range. However the armor piercing ammunition it was designed for is not available for sale in the US to civilians which means you can only use the standard full metal jacket ammo which is fine for plinking but misses the point of the design.

 

As for the safety, if you think it is the right spot, more power to you, I maintain it is in the very wrong place.

 

FN does not sell the FMJ ammo anymore for civilian use (although older stock surfaces at gunshows from time to time and is usually priced insanely). What's sold now is either hollow point or ballistic tipped. The FMJ stuff is what defeats body armor.

[Urban Grunt 44]

Handloads , That alone may invaladate any claim for damages .

The only other known cases of this gun coming apart were both with handloaded ammo.

[Vlad G 345]

FN does not sell the FMJ ammo anymore for civilian use (although older stock surfaces at gunshows from time to time and is usually priced insanely). What's sold now is either hollow point or ballistic tipped. The FMJ stuff is what defeats body armor.

Sorta, the AP round is actually a trimetal thing, the civilian ammo is now the v-max polymer tip stuff. What I mean to say and failed that the civilian ammo is classic copper over lead, where the original ammo like SS190 and its derivatives are actually aluminum and copper of a steel penetrator: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_5.7%C3%9728mm#Varieties

[Urban Grunt 44]

The OP won't state what load he used on several forums he's posted on,

 

did he use his own mix(hot) overloaded ,why not share the reloading data so other reloaders don't have the same thing happen, nothing to hide right?

 

I smell a factor of BS,........................ but i do wish him a full recovery.

[Maksim 1,504]

In the original post that Vlad put a link to, he stated... 3 mags, first was handloads, no problem, it was the last mag, with factory stuff.

[Urban Grunt 44]

Still he's hiding facts about the handloads but gives details about everything else.

[Vlad G 345]

I don't see how he was hiding facts seeing how he stated what he was shooting. While I think it is slightly insane to reload for that cartridge, that failure looks like the gun fired out battery. A double charge or over pressure round tends to crack barrels, that flower of brass behind the barrel looks like a lot of the cartridge was not in the chamber when the trigger was pulled. Reloads or not the gun shouldn't fire out of battery.

 

Now, I'll even go and say that maybe he screwed with the gun and disabled its disconnector, I'm not saying they all do that, but what shocked me how much destruction that resulted in. I've seen guns blown up before, right in front of my eyes, but I haven't seen a handgun decompose as much before or heard of one either. When you are handling as much pressure as a mild .223 in a handgun I think you need a bit less hand grenade.

[david8613 69]

thats pretty bad! i have seen pics of guns going kaboom, but that is unreal...

[Theron 5]

I was considering buying one so I rented one at Classic Pistol in PA. I'm glad I did because overall I found it unpleasant to shoot due to very snappy recoil, imho oddly placed controls, and what felt like an odd grip shape. You might love it, but seriously test fire one first.

[Ronald Silver 2]

yeah, google around & there's an old thread somewhere about his guy who had a blown up FN. boy was he writing it up online...don't remember if he ever got a freebie from FN in the end.... boy was he writing it up online....