ogfarmer 138 Posted May 2, 2013 This weekend is OAKS gun show 1,200 tables. Eagle Arms show Since the panic has subsided they past few weekend shows have been a little better. Less crowded and prices starting to drop. This is a good show with all kinds of stuff. Ammo is there but still somewhat pricey for popular calibers like 9mm. Its a good place to get Mosin ammo. Stop by and see the NJ2AS guys at their booth. They are still looking for Volunteers to man the booth. http://gunshowtrader...lphia-gun-show/ $1 off coupon -> http://www.eaglearms.com/coupon.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVisHome 0 Posted May 2, 2013 If all goes right, I'll be there Saturday looking for Mosin stuff. I think my needs a bayo. Also...I'm not familiar with PA gunshows. In WV, you could bring your guns with you and potentially trade (p2p of course)....is that kosher here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted May 2, 2013 non residents of PA cannot transfer cross state lines in private sales, thats federal law PAresident -> PAresident = OK NJresident-> PAresident = Illegal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVisHome 0 Posted May 2, 2013 non residents of PA cannot transfer cross state lines in private sales, thats federal law PAresident -> PAresident = OK NJresident-> PAresident = Illegal Assuming due to the verbiage of the first statement....PA <-> DE resident = illegal as well, correct? How does sites like Gunbroker and Armslist work then? Transfer through FFL makes it legal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted May 2, 2013 yes ffl transfers yes pa <-> de is illegal any private transfer between non residents must go thru a ffl Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted May 2, 2013 thats federal law Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVisHome 0 Posted May 2, 2013 Thanks! I've been a lifelong shooter....just recently a purchaser though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DbleTrouble 8 Posted May 2, 2013 You guys are talking about person to person sales. It's legal to buy long guns at the gun show. They will do all paperwork for jersey and nics and send it over to NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVisHome 0 Posted May 2, 2013 You guys are talking about person to person sales. It's legal to buy long guns at the gun show. They will do all paperwork for jersey and nics and send it over to NJ. That's assuming you're going through an FFL, even if the transaction is p2p. I'm talking about p2p trades without an FFL involved....apparently illegal when crossing state lines. In WV, I know people walk into the shows with one gun on their possession, and typically walk out with something different....no FFL involvement whatsoever. No cash, no payment, no NICS, no paperwork.....just trading one gun for another. From what I gather, that would be legal if PA to PA resident (as it was with WV to WV resident)...but not to a DE or NJ resident. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted May 2, 2013 non residents of PA cannot transfer cross state lines in private sales, thats federal law PAresident -> PAresident = OK NJresident-> PAresident = Illegal Go over to the transfer table and pay to have one done. Pending the customer agrees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted May 2, 2013 I may go on Sunday. Sat I'm teaching an rso class. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Shoot_It_All 13 Posted May 2, 2013 I'm going with a couple buddies on Sunday. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark@3R1 0 Posted May 2, 2013 I'll be there with my son. Will be helping folks with transfers as well. See you there! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVisHome 0 Posted May 2, 2013 Go over to the transfer table and pay to have one done. Pending the customer agrees. That's how I'm understanding it....it becomes an FFL transfer at that point. The transaction is going through a dealer, so there's a paper trail of it, NICS check, etc....correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Shoot_It_All 13 Posted May 3, 2013 So do the issues of a long nics wait effect purchases at the gun show? If I buy something this weekend will I have to wait weeks for nics and go back to pa to pick it up? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishpaw 17 Posted May 3, 2013 to make this all that more complicated...you can bring a long gun or shotgun..and sell it to another NJ resident and just fill out the COE. No FFL involved. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted May 3, 2013 So do the issues of a long nics wait effect purchases at the gun show? If I buy something this weekend will I have to wait weeks for nics and go back to pa to pick it up? If you buy a long gun @ gun show, the dealer will use PA's NICS which is fairly quick. And yes you can bring it home. Handguns NO, they have to be shipped to your FFL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVisHome 0 Posted May 3, 2013 to make this all that more complicated...you can bring a long gun or shotgun..and sell it to another NJ resident and just fill out the COE. No FFL involved. Now that is bizarre. You'd think PA would want their cut somehow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVisHome 0 Posted May 3, 2013 If you buy a long gun @ gun show, the dealer will use PA's NICS which is fairly quick. And yes you can bring it home. Handguns NO, they have to be shipped to your FFL. Now how would that work....would there be anyway to have the PA FFL run the NICS on a handgun, or does the NJ FFL have to do it? I mean, it's the exact same check, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr.Shoot_It_All 13 Posted May 3, 2013 If you buy a long gun @ gun show, the dealer will use PA's NICS which is fairly quick. And yes you can bring it home. Handguns NO, they have to be shipped to your FFL. Thanks that's what I thought. I knew about the handgun nonsense but just curious about long gun waits. Fingers crossed ill be coming home Sunday with a a mosin and a spam can or two. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted May 3, 2013 Now how would that work....would there be anyway to have the PA FFL run the NICS on a handgun, or does the NJ FFL have to do it? I mean, it's the exact same check, right? No NJ FFL must do it.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11b1p 14 Posted May 4, 2013 can you bring ammo with you to sell just like people bring guns to sell? I am thinking of bringing a backpack full of federal 525rd 22lr bulk packs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted May 4, 2013 No way I am going to any gun shows. All prices are through the roof. And there are so many noobs going to them that the chances of accidental discharges are greater than ever. I would bet the armed noobs are double digit percentage of attendees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted May 4, 2013 can you bring ammo with you to sell just like people bring guns to sell? I am thinking of bringing a backpack full of federal 525rd 22lr bulk packs just make a sign and attach to your backpack or sit outside by front door Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVisHome 0 Posted May 4, 2013 can you bring ammo with you to sell just like people bring guns to sell? I am thinking of bringing a backpack full of federal 525rd 22lr bulk packs A backpack full!?! Hoard much? LOL How much you asking? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greydaddy 2 Posted May 4, 2013 No way I am going to any gun shows. All prices are through the roof. And there are so many noobs going to them that the chances of accidental discharges are greater than ever. I would bet the armed noobs are double digit percentage of attendees. Were you at Valley Forge the day the guy walked in the door with a gun to sell and it went off? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVisHome 0 Posted May 4, 2013 Were you at Valley Forge the day the guy walked in the door with a gun to sell and it went off? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WVisHome 0 Posted May 4, 2013 Do they sell powder and primers at this shindig? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites