samtechlan 23 Posted November 24, 2013 I have to pass a background check to get a permit that lets me go to the ffl to pass a background check. This law is the dumbest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amram 0 Posted November 24, 2013 It's not just the "dumb" (i.e., ill-concieved) laws that are irksome (putting aside the issue that they are clearly unconstitutional), many of the law cause danger to the user and or public. Such as the illegality of hollow points, the pinned buttstock that maymake a rifel more dificult to control if wearing a thick coat. And what about SUPRESSORS? In Europe, you have to use a supressor at an outdoor range so as not to disturbe the neighbors!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondd817 828 Posted November 24, 2013 Simple - the premise that possession of any firearm is illegal and then (very poorly) carving out exemptions which the gun owner has to prove that they fit into rather than a presumption of innocence. This needs to be challenged in the post Heller/McDonald world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarecrow 0 Posted November 24, 2013 The handgun permit process. Even though my town is OK with permits I hate the fact that I have to go to the police station to turn in app an again to pick up permits. Nothing against Police but I don't like being around them or in the station. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted November 25, 2013 What do you consider the dumbest NJ gun law and why do you feel that way? For me, it's the rule that an AR stock has to be pinned. Let's say the law is to prevent concealablity, so, what if a stock is pinned at it's shortest length? Same dimensions. If you are trying to prevent a folding type stock making it 'like a handgun', that's one long handgun with very little advantage over many of the semis and/or revolvers out there. Maybe, it's just to try to make it harder to have a gun that is perfectly comfortable for more than one shooter. The need to remove bayo lugs off ar's baffles me.Goodness gracious. They don't care one bit about the "concealablity" (SIC) of your rifle/stock, and they don't care if it is pinned or not. They don't care if your rifle has a bayonet or not, let alone a bayonet lug. I don't ever think I am going to come to grips with the possibility that it might be that I am older than you are stupid. (not you specifically, just this strange preponderance of ignorance) They banned ARs. All of them. They threw in bayo lugs and collapsible stocks just to make sure you didn't rename your ARs. You cut off your bayo lugs and pinned your collapsible stocks to get around the fact that they wanted ALL ARs banned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pythagoras 2 Posted November 25, 2013 This needs to be challenged in the post Heller/McDonald world. Darn tootin' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gleninjersey 2,141 Posted November 25, 2013 That after you obtain your FID that you have to go through THE ENTIRE PROCESS all over again to get additional pistol permits. Even if only a few weeks have passed .....how stupid. And all the other rules on top of that.....Friggin' Jersey! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usnmars 136 Posted November 25, 2013 I gotta say the antiquated permit process. What a waste of time and resources. Second our AWB has to go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites