getting some P2P's help

[Tallday 10]

Hi all,

 

I am looking to pick up some P2P's IN JERSEY CITY and haven't done so in a wile. What is the current process?

 

any help is appreciated.

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

I can't say what you have to go through in JC, given their asshat of a mayor, but it should be the same as the rest of the state, as that is governed by statute. If they require more than that enumerated below, the extras are illegal and it is up to you if you want to comply or resist...

 

FPID / P2P Application Process

 

An FPID (that's Firearms Purchaser Identification) card is needed to purchase long guns or handgun ammunition in NJ. It also allows you to transport a long gun outside the specific exemptions stipulated in the statutes. It is good for as long as you live at that address (DL & FPID addresses must match). You can purchase as many long guns as you want, once you have this. No constraints.

 

In order to purchase a handgun, an individual Permit to Purchase (P2P) a handgun must be obtained for each handgun you desire. You may only purchase one handgun in any 30 day period - one gun a month (OGAM) - unless you fall under and have applied for one of the exemptions.

The process for applying for your FPID and/or P2P's, or for a replacement or change of address on an existing FPID, is the same and consists of three elements:

Element 1 - The Application - Form STS-033. This is used for both FPID's and P2P's and you may apply for both simultaneously - just check the applicable boxes at the top of the form.

Element 2 - Fingerprinting or Non-criminal Background Check - If this is your initial application you are required to be fingerprinted. NJ now uses a third party entity (Morpho-Trak aka Sagem Morpho) to accomplish this. Your PD will give you instructions and you will have to make an appointment with a Sagem Morpho facility near you. There is a charge for fingerprinting - approximately $50 - $55.

 

Subsequent applications (i.e. for P2P's) will not require fingerprinting*, just the completion of form SP-212A*. (Non-criminal Background Check). This is now done in an electronic (on-line) format. The URL is:

 

https://www.njportal...riminalrecords/

 

You will need your SBI number (FPID number) and your PD’s ORI number, which can be found here...

 

http://www.icpsr.umi...RIs/NJoris.html

 

The results will be electronically communicated directly to your PD. A credit card is used for payment ($20 = $18 plus a $2 “convenience” fee).

Element 3 - Mental Health Background Check - Complete form SP-066. This form must be signed in the presence of the investigating police officer or their designate.

The application and Mental health forms (STS-033 and SP-066 respectively) are available on line at the NJSP website…

http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sts-033.pdf

http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-066.pdf

 …or are available from your PD.

The FPID card is $5 and the P2P's are $2 each. The P2P's are good for 90 days, and can be extended for another 90 days (180 days total from date of issue)*.

Please note that any additional forms or requirements beyond those listed above are illegal. The police are supposed to be bound by the statutes just as we gun owners are - that is not always the case. If they place an additional form or requirement in the process it is up to you whether to resist/refuse or comply. A recent court case upheld this statute and forced a PD to comply.

 

You can apply for as many P2P's as you want - but unless you file for an exemption, you can only use one every 30 days. Do not let the PD tell you that you cannot have the number of P2P's you have requested - they cannot restrict that.

 

*At the discretion of your CLEO

 

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

[Tallday 10]

wow thanks Bob

[siderman 1,138]

IIRC Jersey City was taken to court not too long ago for requiring extra/illegal info, paperwork during the app process. The court ruled against JC but arrogant bastards are appealing it....it was discussed here somewhere. Good luck.

[PD2K 115]

IIRC Jersey City was taken to court not too long ago for requiring extra/illegal info, paperwork during the app process. The court ruled against JC but arrogant bastards are appealing it....it was discussed here somewhere. Good luck.

 

Even though the court ruled against them, Jersey City has said they will continue with the illegal paperwork during the appeal process!!!