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Bad Ammo, Flying Ejectors!

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Was out at the range this morning with my S&W Victory 22LR pistol, hoping to go through 300 rounds. Started off with CCI 36LR ammo and all was relatively fine. Only issue was the 10th round in the mag would jam, and in both mags too. Just shook them in better seemed to cut most of that out, from 100 shots. 

Then I took out the 100 box of Winchester Super X at 1300fps PRN. Good price, expected something like CCI. Surprise! Ha Ha.
Immediately notice the dirty rounds. Like the wax all over them collected dirt. Loaded, shot, coughed. 
Holy Smokes. Litterally. Didn't expect that. Made the gun dirty pretty quickly and more jamming. I could feel the power of the rounds, but then not, then I did, but the smoke was consistent and so were more jams. Ah, I think my pistol likes to top out at 36grains I guess. The spent casings were really dirty. About at my 50th shot (to use them up), bamm! A harder round and a jam, smoke all over, even coming out from alongside the bottom of the mag. So I let it sit, then cycled everything out. 

The 22 shell had Split along the firing lip edge and exhaust gasses must have backed up into the bolt and mag area. I tilted the gun and the ejector and spring fell out. Luckily I saw them both on the bench. Wiped down and cleaned up the mag, gun and disassembled (and made sure the barrel was clear). Put the spring in and placed the ejector, but it fell right out again. I knew something else was missing, which I couldn't find, but someone else's eyes spotted the base for the spring in front of the bench.

Was it the gun, was it the ammo, was it the split seam on the casing? I don't know, but I'm off to youtube to find out how to reinstall the ejector parts, and will most likely just replace them all with after market items if I can get all three parts. 

Just a story, and ammo I won't buy again. I have two other boxes of that stuff in 36 grain hollow point to use up and I'll let you know.

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Tenth round not feeding, magazine problem.  Gun fired out of battery most likely to being dirty. Ammo the most likely cause.  I have seen this more than once.  When 22 brass gets ejected and the brass has significant signs of dirt, it is time to clean the receiver and bore. 22LR is a dirty round to start, keeping it to a minimum is key to keep the gun running.

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Main issue solved. Crappy ammo for my particular gun. S&W victory. Ejector problem solved...

I always start with a very clean gun so I know that wasn't the problem. I tossed the rest of the Winchester Super X 1300 fps 40grains. They were dirty and waxy right out of the box. Perhaps this speed ammo was older, or they just put a tad more power in it or even didn't size it right??, but it was bad functionally and the powder was poor. Hope other people didn't have that problem. 

So at the range today I tested with a clean gun and mags. 400 rounds. 25 yards with bench rest and free hand.
2 boxes CCI 26g,
One box Federal 40gr LRN.
One box of 100 Super X Winchester 1230 36gr php

1 Oh, before I tossed it, I loaded a mag with the Winchester 1300fps, and the mag would not seat tight until I pushed it in very firmly, nor would the first round load with out a push of the slide. Wow, like the 10 bullets were oversized or over waxed and dirty. I shot it twice and tossed the 20 of them out. 

2 Then I tested the Super X Winchester 1230 36gr php. These looked cleaner, and the full mag seated much better. First jam as the bullet didn't go bore well. The shots were smokey but not as bad as the 1300fps Winchesters above. Power seemed ok, but couldn't get through most mags without jams. Made sure I was holding the gun tight. Shot up the 100, and not nearly as dirty as the above. Better, but just not good for my gun. I'll avoid even on sale for my gun. Now maybe they would be better in my 10/22 but I'll never know now. Oh and last time the 10th bullet would jam, here it was the first bullet. Mag seating issue. Go figure. 

3 Now testing the 100 of Federal 40gr LRN. Much cleaner looking. Shiny brass. I first thought that my gun would not be happy with 40gr, but guess what. All went well, Slide racked and closed when I release the lock. Bullets loaded. Less smoke. Couple minor jams or misfeeds. Mags seated easily. Shot them up fast. Not bad, but if I ever buy again, it would be the 36gr. Been doing minor wipes of the bore front and bolt head and this was cleaner.

4:  2 boxes of CCI 36gr (200 rds). Clean and working well. Bullets feed much better, no pushing of the slider. Out of 200, only a minor misfeed or two. I shot from the bench stand, sitting and holding, to standing and holding. Firm grip and wiggly grip. All went well and I zoomed through the rounds. Adj the sights down 2 turns as my natural hold seems to have the tendency to lay higher, but I have to work on that.  

So, the ejector is fine after I reinstalled it. Could be I moved it or something while cleaning but I'm sure it blew off from the exploding round that may not have seated well. Who knows but after 400 rds its ok. 

I'll sell off for half price, my unopened 100 Super X and my 525 of Golden bullets and stick with the 100 boxws of CCI which I get from Cabelas for $8.99. It will be nice to stay sighted in for one specific bullet too.

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