karcirate 1 Posted May 5, 2010 Anyone know if the Clifton PD sends or notifies employer about applications? And in general, how are they with processing FID/HG purchase apps? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 5, 2010 kind of off topic but you bring up something i am really curious about.. i don't personally care since my boss is fully aware of my interest in firearms.. but i have seen several threads in which people discuss the PD reaching out to employers during the process of acquiring a firearms permit.. is that even legal? why is it ANY business of my employer what i own in my home... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
efl15 0 Posted May 5, 2010 kind of off topic but you bring up something i am really curious about.. i don't personally care since my boss is fully aware of my interest in firearms.. but i have seen several threads in which people discuss the PD reaching out to employers during the process of acquiring a firearms permit.. is that even legal? why is it ANY business of my employer what i own in my home... I think its more like another reference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karcirate 1 Posted May 5, 2010 I think its more like another reference. Yes, but how can they decide which contacts in your personal life (including employer) will be included in the process? If they could, why not just force you to put in certain specific references (parent, clergy), or heck - why not just call all your neighbors? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coldsolderjoint 84 Posted May 5, 2010 I beleive all they are required to do is to verify your employment. There is no need to inform the employer of why the verification is needed. There have been a few threads on this lately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted May 5, 2010 There have been a few threads on this lately. i noticed that as well.. and if they contact the employer (which they did NOT for me) and say "this is xxxxxx pd we are verifying that xxxxxxxxx xxxxxx is employed there" i guess that is one thing.. but if they call my work and say "xxxxxxx xxxxx is applying for a firearms permit" i see NO need in that.. and actually have a problem with that.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karcirate 1 Posted May 5, 2010 Ya, that would sound great: "I'm calling from the PD in xxx to verify yyy's employment... Whats that? Oh, I can't tell you why..." Can you link to any of those threads? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted May 5, 2010 Anyone know if the Clifton PD sends or notifies employer about applications? And in general, how are they with processing FID/HG purchase apps? I've heard that Clifton is one of the bad ones..6+ months to get a firearms purchaser ID. Your mileage may vary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted May 5, 2010 Anyone know if the Clifton PD sends or notifies employer about applications? And in general, how are they with processing FID/HG purchase apps? I've heard that Clifton is one of the bad ones..6+ months to get a firearms purchaser ID. Your mileage may vary. i just got mine. 6 1/2 weeks. both the detective and the assistant are very nice and helpful. give them a call and ask. Det. Cusack (973 470-5879) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted May 5, 2010 Anyone know if the Clifton PD sends or notifies employer about applications? And in general, how are they with processing FID/HG purchase apps? I've heard that Clifton is one of the bad ones..6+ months to get a firearms purchaser ID. Your mileage may vary. i just got mine. 6 1/2 weeks. both the detective and the assistant are very nice and helpful. give them a call and ask. Det. Cusack (973 470-5879) ' Good to hear. Guy I work with took 7 months. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJgunowner86 0 Posted May 5, 2010 kind of off topic but you bring up something i am really curious about.. i don't personally care since my boss is fully aware of my interest in firearms.. but i have seen several threads in which people discuss the PD reaching out to employers during the process of acquiring a firearms permit.. is that even legal? why is it ANY business of my employer what i own in my home... It's just one more thing designed to discourage firearms ownership. If someone has a boss that they don't know what he thinks of guns, or know he doesn't like guns, they will probably not apply for a permit for fear of the boss putting down something bad, or firing them, or at least making them have awkward moments at work. it's an invasion of privacy. Also, my town sends the letter and the letter states gun permit. But even if they called for "yeah it's Sgt. Schmoe, does ___ work here? No, I'm sorry, I can't tell you that" yeah that's gonna make the boss feel real comfortable with you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pondscum 0 Posted May 6, 2010 My township sent such a letter to my employer and asked whether he would recommend that I be approved/denied, and what qualities I have displayed that would support his response. this was for an address change on a FID that I have held since 1984. I have a good relationship with my boss, and he was somewhat amused with the process. Lucky for me. I understand that some folks actually have jerks for bosses - bad for them. I realize that the local PD has a statutory duty to conduct an investigation, but I find it disturbing that a constitutionally protected right could be rationed based partially on an employers opinion. I suggested to him that he respond that I have never given him any reason to suggest that they deny me my fundamental right to keep and bear arms, but I don't think that is what he wrote. I don't live in Clifton, apologies if the response is off topic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted May 6, 2010 My township sent such a letter to my employer and asked whether he would recommend that I be approved/denied, and what qualities I have displayed that would support his response. this was for an address change on a FID that I have held since 1984. I have a good relationship with my boss, and he was somewhat amused with the process. Lucky for me. I understand that some folks actually have jerks for bosses - bad for them. I realize that the local PD has a statutory duty to conduct an investigation, but I find it disturbing that a constitutionally protected right could be rationed based partially on an employers opinion. I suggested to him that he respond that I have never given him any reason to suggest that they deny me my fundamental right to keep and bear arms, but I don't think that is what he wrote. I don't live in Clifton, apologies if the response is off topic. There is NO RKBA in the NJ state Constitution, and like it or not, the US Constitution limits the power of the FEDERAL Govt, not the states, until the 2nd is Incorporated via SCOTUS decision. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites