SKS bolt question

[Caine 147]

I know there are some SKS aficionados on here, and I'm hoping someone can shed some light on a question for me.

I've been looking at Russian SKSs and I've noticed that some of them have chrome bolts and some of them have bolts that seem to be coated black.

 

Example 1:

 

Example 2:

 

Were all the bolts black at one point, but over time the coating wore off?

 

Also, while we're on the subject, does anyone have any good online sources for SKS info?

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

Black./plum bolts (as far as russians go) means it was refurbished. A bolt "in the white" usually indicates a non refurb, or a bubba who wanted a shiney bolt

[Caine 147]

That was easy enough

 

Follow up question - is there any reason to avoid a refurb?

[usnmars 136]

Non refurbs bring a higher price because they are original all numbers matching as they left the arsenal. I prefer non refurbs, but wouldn't hesitate on a refurb if the price was right.

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

to add to that:

 

A refurb COULD be numbers matching, either original matching or forced matched. Check out the number stampings. See if they are stamped over previous stamps or if they seem to be stamped over a slightly ground down depression. That would mean the previous serial number was ground out and then force matched. Even if its force matched, its an "original" refurb meaning the parts were matched up at the arsenal and isnt some hack job.

[Caine 147]

Hmmm... so what's the deal with something like this?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =187294775

Has the black bolt, so it's refurb I guess? But numbers seem to match...

 

ETA: Posted just after Glenn, and I think his post answers my question.

[oldslabsides 2]

Refurbished SKS's will have a square box with a diagonal line through it on the receiver cover over the year. There is a second type of re-finish mark that is similar but is diamond shaped with the point going up towards the muzzle. You can also find the mark on the stock as well. The Gunbroker rifle is at an angle so you cannot see the mark very well if it is there, maybe purposely so. It does however look refinished. Some were re-blued while others were given some sort of paint job which would include the bolt carrier and bayonet. The GB rifle definitely looks painted. I have a 1951 Russian Tula with no refurb mark on the cover, but it has a mark on the stock. The rifle has been re-blued and the bolt carrier is bright and shiny. Bayonet is blued as well. All numbers match. The bore also looks brand new. I think you will find them re-furbed in many different ways. I would stick to the Russian models if you can find them. They are going up in value, re-furbed or not. Check out this site, plenty of good info: http://www.yooperj.com/

[tony357 386]

I have a romanian, and a chinese all matching.. the romanian is not matching but i shoot it all the time and also has chrome lined barrel.

 

the chinese is the all matching still in cosmo never fired milled reciever..

 

the chinese also make one that has a sheetmetal reciever which they say is not as strong as the milled or cast recievers..

 

yoopers site is great..

 

also have this site..

 

http://www.sksboards.com/smf/index.php

[Caine 147]

Great info guys - thank you! That yooper's page is exactly the kind of info I was looking for.. and not quite sure how my googling efforts didn't turn up sksboards

[JonF 79]

I have an all matching norinco with a gray bolt. Would that be an original configuration?

 

[tony357 386]

I have an all matching norinco with a gray bolt. Would that be an original configuration?

 

 

 

yes it is..