Colt HBAR

[BlackOps Badger 52]

Thinkin about pickin up a Colt HBAR. I am stupid when it comes to AR's, so I was wondering, is it a worth while gun? Are Colts really all that they're cracked up to be? I'd like to know everyone's experience with them if any. The one that I'm lookin to pick up is used. Looks to be in good shape. The only real wear that I'm seeing is on the shell deflector, or whatever that think is called. Anything I should look for that would throw up any red flags on a used AR? Thanks in advance for any help.

[BlackOps Badger 52]

850.00

[Displaced Texan 11,785]

I have a Colt Match Competition HBAR (MT6700), that I bought with the idea of getting into high power shooting. Colt made a couple of rifles of this type. The MT6700 has the removable carry handle (A3) upper, and the Match HBAR (MT6601)has the A2 upper with the fixed carry handle.

The MT6700 has the 1/9 twist, non-chrome lined barrel. Its a very accurate rifle,shoots much better than I can.

The MT6601 has a 1/7 twist, non chrome lined barrel.

I would say that $850 is a pretty good price for either one.

 

Let us know what you pick up!

[BlackOps Badger 52]

Thanks for the info. This is the MT6700. I'm a little up in the air still, so we'll see.

[Melgamatic 66]

A Colt HBAR in the $850 range is a good deal, and a great place to start in high-power competitions (or any rifle competition or fun shooting). Be aware that if it's a "C" model (with compensator) you can't use it in most competitions, and even if you can it's no fun for the people in the lanes next to you!

[BlackOps Badger 52]

What's the round count I should be lookin for?

[BlackOps Badger 52]

I spoke to the guy that had it and he said he's got right around 2000 rounds through the gun.

[Vlad G 345]

2000rd is about anywhere between half to 1/5th of the barrel life, depending on what you expect from it. They are supposed to be match barrels, 1/9 twist, not chromed. If you expect match performance, then you probably have anywhere between zero and 2000 rounds left of decent performance, depending on what ammo the previous owner used.

 

For my taste that rifle is way to heavy. 20" HBAR barrels are a bit of a pig, you are looking at 8.5lb rifle.

[TK421 2]

_{I have a mid '90s MT6601 with the big stupid sear block in it. It is the sloppiest AR I own to the point that I had to install an Accu-wedge to tighten it up. The newer guns I have fondled seem much better built IMHO.}

[Vlad G 345]

Well, based on what people who shoot match barrels in .223 do to their barrels, about 4000 rounds seems to be when they change them. Mind you, I said this is depending on what you want from it. Not everyone cares about sub minute groups, and likely if the barrel was good to start with it will be good for a lot longer. I just assume if buy an HBAR Colt you do it because you want to shoot some specific type of shooting. I wouldn't worried at all about 2000 rd on a general purpose AR.

 

I would however wonder if that number is real, you never know.

[BlackOps Badger 52]

Well, thanks everyone for all the help. I've decided to hold off on it. I'm savin up for an RPD, and this would take away most of the money I have saved for it. After I get the RPD, if it's still around I may snatch it up.

[johngo1 0]

Other than the fact that they are a bit heavier, they are great accurate rifles. I don't think you can go wrong. I think the price on a brand new MT6700 is about 1100 so I would just save the difference and buy new.

 

Another thing if you get a better deal used and the barrel were worn couldn't you just swap the barrel? These things are the Jeep Wranglers of rifles you can build them from the ground up.

[Vlad G 345]

Yep barrels are relatively easy to replace with a couple of tools.

[mipafox 438]

I know this is probably a dumb question around here, but why is this rifle not banned in NJ? I think most civilian Colts were marked "sporter" or somesuch so I didn't think the lack of AR-15 rollmark made them legal.

 

Yes, I know there are all kids of AR copies that are legal in jersey, I just never thought Colts would be on the list.

[Vlad G 345]

Because Colt redesigned it and got the Colt AR removed from the list explicitly.

[mipafox 438]

Thank you, Vlad.

[MidwestPX 172]

If you're worried about wear, throw it in a rest and shoot a five round group before buying it. Stainless match barrels may not have the same service life as a chrome lined barrel however I wouldn't say they're shot out very quickly either. Match barrels see a relatively slow rate of fire and it's the firing schedule and subsequent heat buildup that kills barrels, not sheer round count.

[Vlad G 345]

Actually here is the official word: http://www.njsp.org/about/fire_ag1.html