msokad 3 Posted May 18, 2013 The current form of the bill will only allow you to keep ownership of the firearm after you register it again and pay a $50 fee. You can only sell it out of state after the bill is signed and has to be sold out of state or given to the state after you pass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
petros600 12 Posted May 20, 2013 I thought there wasn't any grand-fathering on the .50 caliper. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msokad 3 Posted May 21, 2013 There was a new section added. It states you can keep the gun,but you have to register it and pay a $50 fee. If you don't register or make it inoperable, you have to sell it or take it out of state. Please keep in mind that this is still a bill so anything can change. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parikh1234 0 Posted May 26, 2013 I just picked up my 50 cal yesterday. Laminating all the paperwork to prove I got it before the ban Lets hope this doesnt pass! Here are some pictures: http://imgur.com/a/W50as Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted May 26, 2013 Nice. I'm jealous. Did you buy it new? Bet it will be fun to shoot. Enjoy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socom 19 Posted May 26, 2013 I just picked up my 50 cal yesterday. Laminating all the paperwork to prove I got it before the ban Lets hope this doesnt pass! Here are some pictures: http://imgur.com/a/W50as Hiding the honey = no good lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monmouth 19 Posted May 26, 2013 I just picked up my 50 cal yesterday. Laminating all the paperwork to prove I got it before the ban Lets hope this doesnt pass! Here are some pictures: http://imgur.com/a/W50as Congrats, when do we see a range report? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parikh1234 0 Posted May 27, 2013 Nice. I'm jealous. Did you buy it new? Bet it will be fun to shoot. Enjoy! Yup, brand new. Congrats, when do we see a range report? Ill probably get to cherry ridge in the next 2-3 weeks Hiding the honey = no good lol lol her choice, not mine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted June 1, 2013 I heard this is on Christie's desk? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,138 Posted June 1, 2013 I heard this is on Christie's desk? http://www.nj.com/po...un_control.html this link from another thread here is pretty much up to date Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob2222 317 Posted June 1, 2013 http://www.nj.com/po...un_control.html this link from another thread here is pretty much up to date A3659: Bans the .50-caliber rifle — the most powerful weapon available to civilians That may be true for New Jersey, but I'm pretty sure 20mm rifles are NFA legal for civilians with a $200 stamp in Pennsylvania and the rest of the 35 surviving American states. The reporter needs to be reminded that you can even see America (Pennsylvania) from the NJ State House. (I've also read The .600 and .700 Nitro Express cartridges are considered sporting, since they were designed for game hunting in Africa, and they don't require the $200 stamp. Not that I will ever need to shoot a charging rhinoceros.) I thought A3659 as going to be a bone thrown to the antis. But since Buono was way in the background when Obama visited Asbury Park, even the Democrats don't seem to think that she has much of a chance. Plus the Democrats in the NJ Assembly are fighting with the Democrats in the NJ Senate now. So Christie might not even need to sign this one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted June 1, 2013 That may be true for New Jersey, but I'm pretty sure 20mm rifles are NFA legal for civilians with a $200 stamp in Pennsylvania and the rest of the 35 surviving American states. The reporter needs to be reminded that you can even see America (Pennsylvania) from the NJ State House. (I've also read The .600 and .700 Nitro Express cartridges are considered sporting, since they were designed for game hunting in Africa, and they don't require the $200 stamp. Not that I will ever need to shoot a charging rhinoceros.) I thought A3659 as going to be a bone thrown to the antis. But since Buono was way in the background when Obama visited Asbury Park, even the Democrats don't seem to think that she has much of a chance. Plus the Democrats in the NJ Assembly are fighting with the Democrats in the NJ Senate now. So Christie might not even need to sign this one. Remember, in NJ: no sign == pass. Christie would have to veto it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob2222 317 Posted June 1, 2013 Remember, in NJ: no sign == pass. Christie would have to veto it. Yes -- but what I mean is that he has enough karma banked less than 6 months from the election that he can "provisionally" veto this one (and no doubt there are unintended consequences or unconstitutional provisions in the law as written) with a good speech. ("If the Senate and Assembly change "X" ..." which they won't change. He did it with gay marriage, minimum wage, etc.) A3659 will not earn him anything with primary voters in Louisiana. It's toxic in about 35 states. Buono and the rest of the antis think they can hit him over the head with this for November -- but the truth is that 80% of NJ voters don't care all that intensely, and of the remaining 20%, we are half, and of the other half, 98% are voting for Buono anyway. I think Christie should veto most of the bills -- he took my advice about gastric banding, so who knows? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glockguy1120 0 Posted June 1, 2013 I'm lost in the gibberish. So .50 cal muzzleloaders and slug guns were made exempt or no? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bob2222 317 Posted June 2, 2013 I posted this over in the "Politics" forum earlier, so apologies... The vote totals are now posted. http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/bills/bills0001.asp A3659/S2178 passed by the Senate 23/16. They don't have the 27 votes to override a veto of that one, either. Possibilities -- Christie signs the .50 BMG ban, throwing his own party under the bus, and letting the Democrats hit the 16 or 17 Republicans who voted "no" over the head with this in November. Or Christie vetoes/"conditionally vetoes" (change X-Y-Z -- which they won't) the bunch with a good speech asking why they didn't even read the report by his blue ribbon commission, since they did almost nothing that the commission recommended. (This is New Jersey, not Washington. The Republicans voted the way they did because Christie wanted them to vote that way.) Less than 6 months to the election -- Buono wouldn't have been seated in the background and needed to stand in line to shake Obama's hand in Asbury Park last Tuesday if anyone thought she had a snowball's chance on the beach in August. The Democrats in the NJ Assembly are fighting with the Democrats in the NJ Senate over 15 round magazines. Based on the vote totals, I don't think Christie's advisers see much potential danger from vetoing most of the bills. I don't expect Christie to say or do anything Monday morning -- he doesn't have a single bill on his desk at this point. It's also to his and everyone's benefit to allow the memory of Sandy Hook to fade to the maximum extent before taking action. Patience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted June 2, 2013 This is such bullcrap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted June 24, 2013 Bill is being voted on today in full assembly staring at 1pm http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/media/live_audio.asp Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted June 25, 2013 6/24/2013 Passed Assembly (Passed Both Houses) (41-33-3) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glockguy1120 0 Posted June 25, 2013 I know this question gets asked every thread, but what's the next step? Are we relying on christie at this point to veto this crap or are there more chances. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msokad 3 Posted June 25, 2013 At this point, the bill has passed both houses and it goes to the governors desk. The big guy either vetos it,signs it or doesn't do anything with it for 45 days after it hits his desk,if he does that, it's the same as signing it. There is a grandfather clause in it, so anyone with a .50 in their possession with get to keep it once they complete the correct paperwork. The last part is the bill if signed into law will go into effect immediately. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm1827 284 Posted June 25, 2013 I hope he vetoes it, I really want a .50 at some point in my life! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glockguy1120 0 Posted June 25, 2013 I can't recall but were there provisions for sluggers and muzzleloaders? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrospaz9 10 Posted June 25, 2013 I'll have to fill out extra paperwork for my 50? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ogfarmer 138 Posted June 25, 2013 yes, you will have to register it or move it out of state. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nitrospaz9 10 Posted June 25, 2013 It's a HG. It's already registered. Right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Socom 19 Posted June 25, 2013 I read somewhere that they are only banning .50 cals with 10-12000 ft lb. at the muzzle idk if sw 500 are around that its more based towards the 45 lb barrets that they think crimes will be committed with Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msokad 3 Posted June 25, 2013 As usual, the law is written to be as vague as possible. While it does mention the 10-12000 foot pounds, it also mentions rifled bore and .50 cal so the assumption is any hg or rifle that is not smooth bore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msokad 3 Posted June 25, 2013 As usual, the law is written to be as vague as possible. While it does mention the 10-12000 foot pounds, it also mentions rifled bore and .50 cal so the assumption is any hg or rifle that is not smooth bore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parikh1234 0 Posted June 27, 2013 so does anyone know how or where to get the paperwork started to register my 50 cal or am I too early as this hasnt gone into effect yet. I dont want to waste any time to make sure all the correct paper work is in. thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
msokad 3 Posted June 28, 2013 First, Gov has to sign the bill to make it a law. Once signed into law (praying it doesn't) the Superintendent of the State Police has 60 days to create the form that would be used as the registration form. You still have 1 year from law enactment to register. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites