Magazine Capacity and Law Enforcement question

[mipafox 438]

Here is another twist, Off duty weapon with 13-15 round magazines carried into NY state with their current 7 round capacity law. Technically Im a civilian in NY but authorized to carry in all 50 states by federal bill H.R. 218 Law Enforcement Safety Act. Would I be breaking the law in NY with my O.D. weapon?? LOL I am starting to agree on the stupidity of current gun laws.

 

Really? No love for "slumming" with the commoners.

[blksheep 466]

And so it begins...

[mipafox 438]

And so it begins...

 

Yup. He said he's starting to come come around. Most people do.

[BlueLineFish 615]

Technically I am breaking the law in NY when off duty and I have jurisdiction in both states

[High Exposure 5,674]

My advice, if you want to use your >15 round magazines for non-duty related shooting, get a letter signed by your supervisor specifically stating he has authorized you to do so. Thats how a chain of command works, the saying is "s*** rolls downhill" well in reality it rolls up hill. Follow orders from higher, so anytime you are called out for suspected wrongdoing you can say "talk to my supervisor" and now it's their actions under the microscope and not yours. If they did the right thing then there' nothing to worry about, he gets that extra pay to be responsible for you.

 

^^^ Do not follow this advice!

 

As stated prior, follow the procedures spelled out in your SOPs and Rules and Regs. Read them and become familiar with them. Typically a supervisor (Sgt, Lt, Capt) does not have the authority to authorize this or defend the decision. Speak with your agency legal council and follow their opinions.

[NJSlick 0]

Gettin ready for this one...

 

[anabolism 2]

I had an inservice training the other week with the somerset county prosecutor's office and i asked them if i can carry my 15rd off duty in NY. They said since my agency allows it, it should be ok, but even they werent 100% positive.

[GRIZ 3,369]

In addition to my federal job I am an Army reservist and among my issued items are 7 30rd M16 mags. I traded away my AR15 just last month, but before that I did use my 30 rounders to go shooting. I was asked about them by my friends only (no range control or stranger ever approached me) and with the line "I'm in the army" that was it. Logic would direct me to believe that a policeman would be in the same boat... but NJ is illogical, as is the concept of lesser capacity magazines to begin with..

 

Your position as a reservist does not mean you can use your issued 30 rd magazines for "other than official duties". if you are not under orders using any of your issued equipment constitutes misuse of government property. That would be the same as using your field gear to go on a camping trip. You're lucky you didn't get caught with those magazines on a range trip.

 

IIRC NY was or has passed an exemption for active and retired LEOs to carry std capacity magazines.

[Dan 177]

Soon to become law, possession for active LEO will not change. A Retired LEO will be exempt for 10-15 round capacity.

 

Not if I can help it.

[njpilot 671]

Not if I can help it.

 

+100

[Spike 7.62 0]

 

 

Your position as a reservist does not mean you can use your issued 30 rd magazines for "other than official duties". if you are not under orders using any of your issued equipment constitutes misuse of government property. That would be the same as using your field gear to go on a camping trip. You're lucky you didn't get caught with those magazines on a range trip.

 

IIRC NY was or has passed an exemption for active and retired LEOs to carry std capacity magazines.

 

You're right, but my point was that the OP could probably pull the "I'm a ____" card in regard to his magazines, which has been successful for me in my personal defiance of New Jersey.