PATCO and transporting to PA

[Hugger 1]

I need to ride PATCO to PA for work and the range.  Any issues if I lock my firearm in a hard case, ammo in another case and carry both in my backpack while riding PATCO?

 

New to NJ. thank you.

[PK90 3,572]

None, unless you do something stupid to be searched by the Popo.

 

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[mipafox 438]

NJ does not allow you to possess a handgun traveling to work without a carry license (unless you own the business).

 

FOPA does not cover you in your state of origin or destination.

 

PA does not allow you to transport (different than Jersey) a handgun to your job using any sort of "conveyance," such as a train or car, without PA LTCF. (unless you own the business).

 

I am not a lawyer. But I believe you are screwed in two states with no federal protection. Unless you are a cop or have NJ and PA carry permits.

 

You could take the train directly to the range and theoretically be legal in both states. And then walk to your job on foot in PA. And then walk back to the range on foot at the end of the day and then take your firearm back to Jersey.

 

PA LTCF solves this, if you can swing it. A carry permit from ANY of the 50 states covers you on the PA side for conveyance carry, but you cannot conceal on foot without a reciprocal permit.

[Hugger 1]

I should clarify that I do have an Ohio an PA CCW.

[carl_g 568]

If you have a PA LTCF then I think you should be OK on the good side of the river...It's the bad side where I think you might have a problem.

[leahcim 680]

If stopped and searched in the People's Republic, you may need to be directly going to or coming from the range.  Only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

Don't forget your securely tied package.

[Hugger 1]

Ty all!

[1LtCAP 4,264]

dhs has been known to run "drills" at different patco stations where they will search your bags as you're entering the station.

[DaveR 42]

I should clarify that I do have an Ohio an PA CCW.

 

Out of curiosity, if you are a NJ resident, how did you get a PA CCW?

PA only issues to residents of other states if they have a CCW from their home state.

[Zeke 5,504]

Out of curiosity, if you are a NJ resident, how did you get a PA CCW?

PA only issues to residents of other states if they have a CCW from their home state.

I'm gonna guess, non permanent resident in NJ?

Most likely Ohio is his/her port of call

[Zeke 5,504]

Hugger,

Make sure the case you're carrying in is locked. Ergo warrant for search. You will get jammed up this side of the river. The laws are bs here

[mipafox 438]

Out of curiosity, if you are a NJ resident, how did you get a PA CCW?

PA only issues to residents of other states if they have a CCW from their home state.

He just moved to Jersey from Ohio. No idea what he was smoking.

 

His PA LTCF is valid until expired or revoked. If his Sheriff learned of his new address it might be revoked. But it is still valid as of the moment.

 

Sheriff notifies you of revocation by mail. Hope his mail forwarding lasts longer than his LTCF.

[Zeke 5,504]

He just moved to Jersey from Ohio. No idea what he was smoking.

 

His PA LTCF is valid until expired or revoked. If his Sheriff learned of his new address it might be revoked. But it is still valid as of the moment.

 

Sheriff notifies you of revocation by mail. Hope his mail forwarding lasts longer than his LTCF.

Home is where the heart is, address is where you get your mail......

Plenty of people are transient for work

[mipafox 438]

Home is where the heart is, address is where you get your mail......

Plenty of people are transient for work

Well, your mind can be on the Bahamas when a fat naked woman on bathsalts and covered in her own shit wrestles you while her two kids try to beat you with a mailbox and a toilet seat. But your ass is about to realize you are actually still in Jersey. And somehow you're probably going to jail for this.

[Hugger 1]

I'm sorry. I was an Ohio resident and just moved back to NJ. So I have an Ohio resident, PA , Utah, Florida, Maine and New Hampshire non resident CCW.

[DaveR 42]

I would have to go with not legal in the slightest without a NJ CCW.

The biggest problem would be that NJ and federal firearm transportation laws require that the firearm is not directly accessible.

Could not find any rules for PATCO, but Amtrak requires a firearm to be in checked luggage.

 

Stories like this ( http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/08/2_men_arrested_on_nj_transit_b.html ) show you how messed up Jersey is.

[Zeke 5,504]

Hugger. You are a resident of Ohio. You Are living here temporary. Under 6 months.

I'm going to say that YOU are going to say YES to this question on the Internet.

[Hugger 1]

Thank you for all the answers and not blasting me. Great forum.