silverado427 10,791 Posted June 7, 2016 The SBRs are select fire. The 16" guns are semi only. Do the SBRs stay at the armory or roll with you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 7, 2016 You take your assigned rifle on patrol and return it at the end of shift. Team guns are assigned individually and drawn for jobs or training. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,107 Posted June 7, 2016 Does anyone make a Low Profile Gas Block that will replace a standard fronts sight base and lock into at least one of the pin channels cut into the barrel? Thanks. Back to the original question. I've just assembled a few that I converted to SBRs using Gieselle gas blocks and they had a pin that went cross section ally to the barrel. Whether it all lines up with block stop, channel and port I don't know. This is the one. https://geissele.com/super-gas-block-nitride.html I'm in NJ for a couple of weeks if I were in FL I could take some measurements for you because I have on sitting in the box waiting for a .458 barrel. I don't know how much of a hurry you are in. Perhaps you can call Gieselle and they can give you the same data. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 7, 2016 Awesome Rob, thanks. I was looking at that gas block but wasn't 100% sure it would work. I'll call Geissele and ask. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,107 Posted June 7, 2016 I hope it works out you never know how that armorer will react! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 7, 2016 He can be a real dick sometimes! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted June 7, 2016 It seems like most gas blocks get drilled after being installed which would make it pretty impossible to match afterwards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted June 13, 2016 What helmets are you using for the goggles? I hear team Wendy stuff just got a lot easier to find. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 13, 2016 Battlewear. It's an Ops Core knockoff that is on State Contract. I was pushing for Crye Airframes but the wait was almost a year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted June 13, 2016 Cool. I wonder how that team Wendy controversy will affect sales. I'd imagine they aren't making much from civilian sales so they'd have to lose LEO sales to make a difference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,107 Posted June 16, 2016 How did this turn out? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,791 Posted June 16, 2016 Do duty rifles have to be pinned and welded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 16, 2016 How did this turn out? Nice. Finishing it tonight. Pics to follow. I rnded up using a BCM low-pro gas block. The set screw closest to the shoulder locks into the groove on the barrel left by the taper pin. Works perfectly. Do duty rifles have to be pinned and welded. If they are owned by the PD no, but appropriate ATF paperwork needs to be completed if they are under 16". If they are owned by the individual officer and used on duty, yes. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted June 17, 2016 If they are owned by the PD no, but appropriate ATF paperwork needs to be completed if they are under 16". If they are owned by the individual officer and used on duty, yes. Really intrigued by this. Officers can own their work rifles? And those rifles are NJ neutered? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 17, 2016 Not every Dept allows it, and some agencies have idiosyncratic differences but at some agencies there is a "personally owned/Deptartment approved" Rifle program where officers can carry their own personal rifle on duty if it meets policy standards and passes Dept Armorer inspection. It has to be either a completely NJ legal rifle, or purchased on Dept letterhead with the Chief's signature. If the rifle is not NJ legal and purchased on Dept letterhead, upon retirement or separation from the department, the rifle becomes deptartment property It's treated no differently that carrying a personal gun on your ankle as a bug. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rob0115 1,107 Posted June 17, 2016 Nice. Finishing it tonight. Pics to follow. I rnded up using a BCM low-pro gas block. The set screw closest to the shoulder locks into the groove on the barrel left by the taper pin. Works perfectly. If they are owned by the PD no, but appropriate ATF paperwork needs to be completed if they are under 16". If they are owned by the individual officer and used on duty, yes. Good deal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 17, 2016 Ok - From this: To this: 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted June 17, 2016 Looks much better Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 17, 2016 Feels much better. 10" tube on an 11.5" barrel. It is significantly lighter and I have a few more inches of room on the tube - which was the primary goal. It drives very fast, but it does feel a little weird with the front so much lighter. The muzzle moves a bit more when firing fast. I may switch back to the SOPMOD stock, the extra weight in the back may be beneficial. We shall see... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silverado427 10,791 Posted June 17, 2016 What kind of triggers do duty guns use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 18, 2016 Whatever is approved. We use the standard Colt trigger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted June 18, 2016 Just saw this for the first time. Was gonna recommend bcm. I usually keep a couple on hand Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 18, 2016 Yup. Picked up two .625 gas blocks at Howell Gun Works - the Colt SBRs use pencil-barrel profile barrels. I have used BCM blocks on other guns, and trust all BCM gear, but wasn't sure about using one on a barrel after removing the taper pins. As it turns out, it worked perfectly! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted June 18, 2016 And you are mounting a dbal to that later on? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 18, 2016 Eventually. Haven't figure out the best place for that yet. SBRs are cool, until you have essential shit to bolt on them and don't have any room... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted June 19, 2016 How do you deal with 30rd mags? Is that only on duty? I always wondered since if your agency issued g17s you'd get 17 rd mags as well right? And you can carry that all the time I assume Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 19, 2016 It's tricky. Agency buys the mags and issues them to officers. Patrol guys draw mags before shift - usually in the bag with the rifle and a double mag for in the rack in the radio car. SWAT guys keep mags staged in the pouches on their gear so they can respond directly to a crisis scene without going to HQ first and grabbing stuff. Much more efficient. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted June 19, 2016 Ah. Makes sense. In a way that only in NJ could it make sense Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted June 19, 2016 I may switch back to the SOPMOD stock, the extra weight in the back may be beneficial. We shall see... I would.. that is the first thought I had when looking at the new version.. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,671 Posted June 19, 2016 Well, I got a "Promotion" on the team that translates into much more time carrying a rifle and much less of a chance to be in a position to need to shoot said rifle so I figure I would go lighter. It's still capable, but I'm saving 11.5oz of weight that will hang around my neck. It's not much but when your wearing all that crap, every little bit helps. I'm gonna get on a timer and see what shakes. I have a feeling that the SOPMOD will make a triumphant return. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites