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For of you debating the meaning of restaurants closing, my son worked as a bartender at at restaurant in Sea Bright and one in Red Bank. Effective today, both have completely shutdown and he is out of work. There is no confusion here as to the financial impact of this virus on those businesses and on us.

An update. My McMaster order arrived at my door in 24 hours! The standard shipping was a very reasonable $7.42. Am very satisfied. I had ordered 4 pints of 70% alcohol and a pack of disinfectant wipes. In hindsight, I perhaps should have skipped the wipes. Judging by their packaging, they appear to be industrial strength and will kill every virus within a hundred miles, lol.

Given Trump’s speech moments ago which includes a ban on all travel from Europe(excluding the UK), the level of anxiety will now ratchet up to a new level. The shit has gotten real. Buckle up.

Thanks. Btw, my local Costco in Hazlet is out of alcohol. However, ironically they had plenty of Flents "Wipe'nClear" eyeglass wipes in stock in the same aisle. Three boxes of 75 were about 10 bucks. Work great on eyeglasses which is why I purchased them While it does not say it on the cartons, I realized once I got home that they are isopropyl alcohol wipes. The individual wipe packets list the ingredients as "Water, Isopropyl Alcohol, and Detergent". They measure about 4x6". However only lightly impregnated with liquid. One wipe is fine for eyeglasses but would likely need to use two to sanitize your hands. Will be interesting to see how long they last once people catch on.

Thanks Malsua. I just placed an order with McMaster for several bottles of alcohol and wipes. They were listed as in stock and shipping today. The only thing I find troubling is that they do not tell you what the shipping will cost until some time after you place the order. Hope they don't price gouge on the shipping.

Just stopped by my local Walgreens in Port Monmouth to pick up a prescription. Last week they had some hand sanitizer on the shelf. Today that section as well as cleaning supplies (eg Lysol, disinfectant wipes,etc) were completely bare. With the worsening news (Italy, increased spread here, impending school closures and business work from home or outright closures, etc.), those that were complacent(Let’s say 50% of the population) until now will become increasingly anxious. The window of opportunity to prepare is closing fast. I saw firsthand with Hurricane Sandy how quickly life around here went from normal to shit in a matter of days. Brings to mind the phrase: Sometimes when things start going downhill, they just keep on going.... (downhill).

When driving to/from the range, I often think through/struggle with what I would do if stopped by a LEO. Eg 1) be my normal totally open transparent self, or 2) keep my mouth shut, invoke my right to have an attorney present before any questions, and give no consent for a search. Incidents like this clearly lead me to follow #2;even at the risk of exposing myself to intimidation for invoking my rights.

Stopped by my Costco in Hazlet yesterday morning to pick up a few items and see the situation there. Was quite busy for 1030am but everyone seemed calm. Two case limit on water. Noticed water, TP, and paper towels in most shopping carts. It appears to me that Costco is going out of their way to not allow shelves to look empty. Eg week before last they had peroxide and alcohol next to each other. Last week no alcohol but the peroxide was spread out to fill the empty space. Yesterday I saw neither, and there were bandaids filling that section. Just anecdotal I know, but interesting to monitor.

What an egregious abuse of power and violation of his(and our) rights. There is a GoFundMe page and I am certainly inclined to donate.

Yes, this news broke this morning. Patient is at Bayshore Hospital in Holmdel. In my area. Will be interesting to see if they are ultimately confirmed of having the virus and what their travel/contact history is.

I agree that "100x" sounds suspect. It was more the change from a week ago that I found noteworthy. Btw, the pallet you showed is $4699.00. Not many people can afford that. The parent "food" webpage show a number of more affordable selections, a number of which are sold out.

I am as concerned about peoples reaction to the virus risk as I am the virus itself. Out of curiosity, I went to the website of Patriot Food Supply(https://mypatriotsupply.com/collections/emergency-survival-food) this morning. On their home page they have an Alert message. It reads: Update: 02/27/20 4:10 PM MST Demand for our storable food product remains near 100X normal volume. These are unprecedented times. Shipping WILL be delayed on many orders, potentially 6-8 weeks or more in rare cases. Complete checkout to reserve your place in line now! As has been in place for a month now, orders will continue to be shipped on a first come, first served basis. When your order ships, we'll send you an email with the tracking number and timing of your delivery. We apologize for the delay and thank you in advance for your patience. If you read down that page, one week ago they were saying demand was 10-12x normal. Quite an acceleration over the course of the last week.

After the unpleasantness(no electricity, no heat, no open gas stations, ...) of the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, I took preparedness much more seriously than ever before. Vowed to be able to shelter in for two weeks without food stores, utility power, etc.. (I envy those of you who are prepared for a 3 month situation.) I had acquired supplies spanning categories including emergency food, water, lighting, hygiene, medical supplies, communication, and of course, security; among others. A representative partial list of them are below. The sheep are already beginning to get restless/spooked. I can envision a point very soon where that will increase exponentially. By then you will have missed your window of opportunity to prepare. Noticed this evening that almost every emergency food item at Wise (wisefoodstorage.com) is listed as "Stock is low" and in your Shopping Cart it also states "Stock is low. Allow 2-3 weeks for delivery." Will be interesting to see if this changes to "Out of stock" at some point. I already have Wise food on hand. - Several days ago, I explicitly informed all my adult children that if they had not yet given thought to preparedness for their families, NOW would be a really good time to do so. One should also consider the potential for more complex scenarios such as a bad storm impacting electricity or a late March deep freeze causing broken water mains and impact on water supply to your home, etc. COUPLED with limited utility crews available to respond due to the impact of the virus. - Some of the OTC medical supplies I had previously purchased and stored had gone well past their expiration date. I checked them all several days ago, discarded them where appropriate, and backfilled them (Costco and Walgreens). - We always refill our cars before they reach half a tank. That gas also represents spare fuel for my generator if needed. - If you have prescription refills available (e.g. antibiotics) you might want to consider refilling them proactively. - Have plenty of first aid supplies on hand such as: first aid kits, Neosporin, rubbing alcohol, hydrogen peroxide, aspirin, acetaminophen, ibuprofen, naproxine, etc on hand. Same goes for children and infant strengths of those where appropriate. - Extra paper towels, toilet paper, soap, toothpaste, laundry detergent, etc. - Baby wipes for personal hygiene, especially handy if there is any interruption to water supplies. - Plenty of kitchen garbage bags and large contractor garbage bags, in the event of garbage pickup interruption. - Paper plates, plastic cutlery, etc. - Triple set of spare batteries for every flashlight, radio, radio scanner, smoke/fire detector, CO detector in my home. - Clorox disinfectant wipes. - Purchased an additional propane tank for my grill. Going tomorrow to refill several empties that I have in my shed. - Cash money on hand in the event banks or ATMs close. Lastly, given this is a Firearms forum, I assume everyone is prepared from a "security" perspective. A few years ago, I recall someone posting here a picture of a mob of customers at Walmart fighting to get a TV on Black Friday. Imagine what they would do if it were for food.

In January, I received a letter from the State of Utah dated Jan 19th, 2020 informing me that my permit would be expiring in mid-April.. I submitted my renewal ($20) via their online portal on Feb 12th. Uploaded a scan of recent passport photo I had around. They issued my new permit on Feb 19th, one week later. Was postmarked Feb 20th and arrived today. What a difference a State makes! p.s. I encountered an issue with their web pages appearing properly. Called up and they stated there was a recent known issue with the Chrome browser. So I used the Microsoft Edge browser(Windows 10) instead and it was fine. Also note that if your existing permit expires, you have one year to submit the renewal, albeat will cost you an extra $7.50 late fee.

Welcome from Middletown.

The unpleasant memory of the shortages in the 2013-2016 timeframe, especially for 22LR, remains fresh in my mind. As such over recent years I have made it a priority to acquire an “adequate” amount for my needs. Each person will need to determine what is “adequate” for them, subject to their shooting habits, financial situation and other priorities. I have also factored into my thinking something I read online back then. It read “The ammunition you have on hand may be all that you will ever have”. Worth pondering. My main advice is to not be complacent in this period of good supply and low prices. The supply can turn negative very quickly. Numerous bills restricting purchase of ammunition were drafted and proposed since 2013 and are just waiting to be again dusted off and rammed through by our NJ legislature and governor.

I missed it as well. Thanks for reposting.

I am in Middletown, Welcome to the forums!

I bumped this thread since it makes mention of A1016 which apparently is now law as of Feb 1st. I and many here already new about the new smart gun law. However this is the first I am hearing of a "personalized handgun roster". Source: Middletown Patch--> https://patch.com/new-jersey/middletown-nj/s/h01et/4-new-nj-laws-start-feb-1-heres-what-they-do?utm_source=alert-breakingnews&utm_medium=email&utm_term=politics&utm_campaign=alert The link to A1016 within the aforementioned article is--> https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A1500/1016_I1.PDF Text from the article is pasted below. Just wonderful, now we will have a commission which will maintain a "personalized handgun roster". Sounds somewhat like the roster California has which severely limits what handguns citizens in that state can buy. As has been mentioned by others, I foresee the day that NJ will mandate only personalized handguns can be sold, thus we would be limited to only those handguns on this new roster. The net effect would be as bad if not worse than in California. Yet another incentive to apply for more permits and go purchase the handguns that you have been thinking of getting, before it is ultimately too late to do so. p.s. Mods: did not see any other current thread on this topic. Merge if there is, and/or move to Current NJ Legislation as you deem fit. "Smart gun usage Establishing performance standards for personalized handguns, also known "smart guns" and "child-proof guns," took effect on Saturday. A personalized handgun is a firearm incorporating technology that automatically limits its operational use and cannot be readily deactivated. It may only be fired by an authorized or recognized user, lawmakers said. The new law (A-1016) creates the "Personalized Handgun Authorization Commission" to be responsible for approving and maintaining a roster of personalized handguns authorized for sale to the public, lawmakers say. It will also require all licensed retail firearm dealers, with limited exception, to offer for sale at least one personalized handgun. The Personalized Handgun Authorization Commission will consist of seven members, including the state attorney general, superintendent of State Police, the commissioner of health or their respective designees, all serving ex-officio. The remaining four members would be appointed by the governor. "We've seen far too many senseless deaths because of handguns accidentally getting in the hands of children. The technology exists to curb this possibility," said Assemblyman Gordon Johnson, D-Bergen"

An update on my Agile 52. I have had it now for about 5 months and continue to be very happy with it. I am not suggesting this is the best option for everyone. But was the best for me. I would describe it as a very high quality RSC, as opposed to a hardened safe. Will definitely keep my grandkids, visitors, etc from accessing my firearms. Would also slow down a burglar. However, I do also have other layers of security(central station alarm, surveillance cameras, etc.). I needed to secure my firearms on the 2nd floor of my home. So buying a 1000+ lbs behemoth was out of the question. Nor did I want to worry about having to move a heavy safe if we change residences. The Agile 52, with it's cradle Grid system, while costly, is extremely customizable and lets you take advantage of every nook and cranny to store your firearms and accessories. I purchased the "Plus" version which included 6 bins and three metal storage trays. Am using them all except for one of the storage trays. I also purchased the optional large shelf. This enables you to store four of your rifles up off the floor; providing you space underneath for ammo, etc. It is mandatory to bolt it down so it is stable and not easily carried away. In my case, I reinforced the bottom by purchasing some flat iron stock from Lowes/Home Depot and laying two strips of it across the bottom. The floor bolts go through those and then through four e-drilled holes in the bottom. I also put a lag bolt through the back panel into the wall. I used pieces of the wooden slats from it's packing materials as a shim between it's rear panel and the wall. (There was a gap due to the baseboard moulding.) It will hold six long guns with inline access, as well as six handguns (with one or two using the pegs for inline access, the remainder can be stored on the aforementioned storage trays which sit against the back panel behind your long guns. Lastly, the Zanotti or SecureIT's other line of safes might be worthwhile considering for those who may want a more hardened option without the worry of the weight of the safe imploding your house.

I was formerly a member of GSSC and continue to attend our monthly meetups there. I had purchased numerous firearms from them and the service I received was always excellent. I have the highest regard for the integrity of Tony, Jeff, and their staff, and any future firearms purchases will also be from GSSC. For me, I also found their facility (parking area, inside lounge,etcj to be a more welcoming environment.

Hi David, welcome. Great meeting you on Tuesday evening. regards, Art

Thanks for the link. I just made a donation of one seat($35). Btw, this topic is getting a lot of coverage by Mark Walters on his Armed American Radio podcast. His Dec 12th show was mostly devoted to it.

Fort Knox Pistol Box I have three hidden and bolted down in different areas of the house. Approx $200 each. Very strong.

This was a front page article in Friday's(11/22) edition of the Asbury Park Press. In the APP article, it also states that "Maggs (the attorney) said he was worried; he had seen posts from Conti's Facebook page that included references to guns." I assume it was his Facebook page that revealed to the attorney that he was a firearms owner.