Cemeterys Gun Blob 165 Posted February 5, 2011 For those of you who don't know, the Joyce Foundation supports gun control, and financially supports gun control groups like CeaseFirePA, Freedom States Alliance, Violence Policy Center, etc. You can see their 2010 grant list here > http://www.joycefdn.org/content.cfm/program-grants-list-3 But it seems that the antigunner's are frustrated since various media outlets report low numbers of support for gun control, except the poll by MAIG which claims 80% or so of NRA member's support gun control. And since the poll numbers are so low, it is affecting their cash flow, and lobbying efforts (boo hoo right?), so now they want to seek support from the silent majority. Who is this silent majority? Hunters. Really? You bet. She plans new efforts to tap a “silent majority” she believes favors more restrictive gun laws, particularly hunters. “They can be useful partners, credible partners when talking about issues like high-capacity magazines and .50-caliber rifles.” And just to be clear, when they take about the *Big .50*, they don't mean the .50cal BMG, they mean ALL .50 centerfire and above, which includes shot guns, old west rifles, and muzzleloaders. NJ's first passing of the .50cal ban didn't leave much leeway for exemptions, but Bryan Miller was pushing it, and calling the muzzleloader and reenactor communities *extremists*. Thankfully that bill is D.O.A. and I haven't found any resubmission of such a bill in the NJ Legislature Anyway, the article is an interesting read, and is an insight on how the plan to rebrand gun control. Which they're trying to do by calling it *gun safety*. http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/did-the-national-rifle-association-buy-congress/?singlepage=true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anselmo 87 Posted February 5, 2011 Depends on the definition of "gun control". In other words, if the survey is worded: Do you agree that suspected terrorists can buy firearms without any delay or background check or encumbrance? You might reply "no". Therefore, you support gun control. "should RPG launchers be available to anyone?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmanrkg3 3 Posted February 5, 2011 Hitting the target hopefully! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted February 5, 2011 For those of you who don't know, the Joyce Foundation supports gun control, and financially supports gun control groups like CeaseFirePA, Freedom States Alliance, Violence Policy Center, etc. You can see their 2010 grant list here > http://www.joycefdn.org/content.cfm/program-grants-list-3 But it seems that the antigunner's are frustrated since various media outlets report low numbers of support for gun control, except the poll by MAIG which claims 80% or so of NRA member's support gun control. And since the poll numbers are so low, it is affecting their cash flow, and lobbying efforts (boo hoo right?), so now they want to seek support from the silent majority. Who is this silent majority? Hunters. Really? You bet. She plans new efforts to tap a “silent majority” she believes favors more restrictive gun laws, particularly hunters. “They can be useful partners, credible partners when talking about issues like high-capacity magazines and .50-caliber rifles.” And just to be clear, when they take about the *Big .50*, they don't mean the .50cal BMG, they mean ALL .50 centerfire and above, which includes shot guns, old west rifles, and muzzleloaders. NJ's first passing of the .50cal ban didn't leave much leeway for exemptions, but Bryan Miller was pushing it, and calling the muzzleloader and reenactor communities *extremists*. Thankfully that bill is D.O.A. and I haven't found any resubmission of such a bill in the NJ Legislature Anyway, the article is an interesting read, and is an insight on how the plan to rebrand gun control. Which they're trying to do by calling it *gun safety*. http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/did-the-national-rifle-association-buy-congress/?singlepage=true Let's hope that silent majority (hunters) are smart enough to see through this charade. The NJOA produced an article this week noting that 5% of the U.S. population still hunts. It should be noted that less than 1% of New Jerseyan's hunt today. The latter number is somewhat sobering. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cemeterys Gun Blob 165 Posted February 5, 2011 Let's hope that silent majority (hunters) are smart enough to see through this charade. The NJOA produced an article this week noting that 5% of the U.S. population still hunts. It should be noted that less than 1% of New Jerseyan's hunt today. The latter number is somewhat sobering. And let's not forget that those numbers go down each year. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted February 6, 2011 And let's not forget that those numbers go down each year. Close to 3% of the population hunted in New Jersey 30 years ago. Today we have more people in the state yet significantly less that hunt. Hunting & fishing license sales last year were roughly a third of what they peaked at in 1990. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted February 6, 2011 Whatever it takes, these clowns will do anything to take your 2A away. They seem to always rotate the words they use, ie gun safety, common sense, and this or that belongs on a battlefield. Good post Cemetery Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BRN169 6 Posted February 6, 2011 I worked with several assclowns of this mentality at the Ford plant in Edison, "who needs more than 10rounds, what are you going to hunt with an "M16" (talking about an AR), AK47s are only used for drive bys and to kill cops, yadda, yadda, yadds..." I told the one guy I suggest he re-read the second amendment because it doesn’t say anything about hunting. Like most people I don't hunt, I couldn't bring myself to shoot an animal that wasn't a threat to me, I punch holes in paper to be sure I am prepared for the day when it may become necessary to punch holes in people to save my own life. I continued, If you ignore or support them when they come for mine I will be with them when they come for yours... He thought long and hard about it for a minute and said he "never thought about it that way..." These are the type of people that cannot see the forest through the trees and they are dangerously ignorant of things outside of their own bubble... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted February 7, 2011 I am very thankful that I found the 2A community and renounced my Fudd-like thoughts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites