Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine

[charleslee 45]

I just saw one of their ads w/ one CA & NY approved! Why can't we get it approved here?

[Kaiser7 33]

Because the M1 carbine is the rifle that got NJ to be so anti-gun in the first place.

[stein 1]

Because everyone (including it's manufacturer) keeps calling it an M1 Carbine, when it is an Auto Ordnance "US CARBINE CAL 30 ML".

[when_shtf 4]

According to section 13:51-1.2, Definitions, of NJ Administrative Code, Firearms and Weapons, "M1 carbine type rifles" are included in the definition of "Assault firearms". While many other banned weapons are included by name, the M1 is included by type. Also included are "Any firearm manufactured under any designation which is substantially identical to any of the firearms listed in paragraph" 13:51-1.2, Definitions.

 

Of course there is the list of modifications that allow some types included in that list to become acceptable, but the M1 can not be modified under those conditions, i.e. it isn't possible to pin the stock, it doesn't have a flash hider, doesn't have a pistol grip.

 

An "M1 carbine type" simply isn't allowed.

[Parker 213]

The M1 carbine has always been legal in NY, provided it didn't have at least two "evil features." The "NY approved" version from A-O is equipped with a 10-rnd. magazine.

[halbautomatisch 60]

The M1 carbine has always been legal in NY, provided it didn't have at least two "evil features." The "NY approved" version from A-O is equipped with a 10-rnd. magazine.

 

Any firearm made before Sept. of 1994 that isn't full auto or SBR is legal in NY. "Evil Features" only applies to post Sept. 1994 firearms in NY.

[matty 810]

Because NJ keeps voting for Liberals

I just saw one of their ads w/ one CA & NY approved! Why can't we get it approved here?

[Bt Doctur 188]

I heard its one of the easiest to convert to full auto ,plus the 30 rd mags

[GRIZ 3,369]

I heard its one of the easiest to convert to full auto ,plus the 30 rd mags

 

This is because the full auto conversion was designed I..nto the carbine. IIRC the M2 conversion kit consists of only 7 parts. Plus the stock cut to accommodate the selector. You could order the parts at one time (of course not all of them from one supplier) and build an illegal M2. ATF got wise to this and certain parts are now considered to be NFA items. It is not unusual to see a M1 that picked up a M2 trigger housing or stock during a rebuild.

 

Last I looked a legal M2 kit (just the parts not including the carbine) was about $5000.

[Wojo 98]

I miss my M1 Carbine...had to part with it to do my part in keeping society safe.