revolutions not being reported

[Shawnmoore81 623]

Another thing not being reported

 

 

Mexico 7-11-12

The largest protest in human history. The US and UK are pushing media to not report it and google censored searches and YouTube videos

 

It's happening in Spain too

 

http://humansarefree.com/2012/07/spanish-revolution-continues.html?m=1

 

[DTtuner 21]

Damn!

[BlueLineFish 615]

Thats a lot of people. And look..they are acting far more civilized than those in anaheim. Should we defend those in anaheim now. These people are peacefully protesting something legit. Those in anaheim are rioting over gangbangers that got shot. Big difference.

[NJdiverTony 27]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... This is old news... and who said that the media was not reporting it?!?!?! It was all over the news a few weeks ago when it happened. Same thing with Mexico, when the populace protested the outcome of the elections... What happened in Spain was no different than all the protests and hoopla that happened in Greece over the last year or two, due to the economic downturn there. People were protesting and rioting about all the austerity measures and government corruption there. At this point, after all that's been going on in the Eurozone over the last year or two... this stuff isn't generating as much media interest as it first was... The media is reporting on it, but just not as much as they used to as it's not really something new.

 

Take the tin foil hat off and maybe follow the news a bit more closely... and then maybe things will stop looking like cover ups and conspiracies to you.

[Shawnmoore81 623]

I didn't see anything to this extent in the news and apparently other people are in the same boat.

[Soju 153]

Though I am certainly not suggesting I can always know about everything going on around the world, but I do attempt to pay attention, and probably more so than the majority of the US population. I can say that this is the first I have heard about this. All over the news? Well I'd bet it was on the news, at some point, sure. But it sounds a lot like it wasn't covered much at all.

 

I'm not sure how you can say protests involving tens (hundreds) of thousands of people involves wearing a tin foil hat.

 

And since if it was 'all over the news' wouldn't there be plenty of articles about it? I've been searching, and sure, there are plenty of articles. But none of them are from a single major news media outlet. Not a single one from the first 100. In fact, 9 of the first 10 articles about it were stating how the media wasn't talking about it and trying to black it out!

 

You can continue to attack people because you don't want to believe something, but though it may be difficult, as it is part of human psychology, I would hope you could try and have less of an emotional response.

 

 

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... This is old news... and who said that the media was not reporting it?!?!?! It was all over the news a few weeks ago when it happened. Same thing with Mexico, when the populace protested the outcome of the elections... this stuff isn't generating as much media interest as it first was... The media is reporting on it, but just not as much as they used to as it's not really something new.

 

Take the tin foil hat off and maybe follow the news a bit more closely... and then maybe things will stop looking like cover ups and conspiracies to you.

[this_is_nascar 162]

My first inclination is to say, who gives sh*t as to what happens in Mexico. That being said, I don't like seeing civil unrest regardless of where it's occurring.

[Soju 153]

Just as an observation...

 

In contrast to these protests in Spain and Mexico, which had little coverage, and was largely blacked out by the media, did/does the same hold true for Egypt? Greece? Even Syria?

 

Well no. Those had/have MAJOR media coverage. Why? Well because the Egyptian protesters were US supported. The EU had a financial stake in Greece. And the overthrow of the Syrian government and Assad is obviously US backed and supported.

[greatgunstatenj 32]

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... This is old news... and who said that the media was not reporting it?!?!?! It was all over the news a few weeks ago when it happened. Same thing with Mexico, when the populace protested the outcome of the elections... What happened in Spain was no different than all the protests and hoopla that happened in Greece over the last year or two, due to the economic downturn there. People were protesting and rioting about all the austerity measures and government corruption there. At this point, after all that's been going on in the Eurozone over the last year or two... this stuff isn't generating as much media interest as it first was... The media is reporting on it, but just not as much as they used to as it's not really something new.

 

Take the tin foil hat off and maybe follow the news a bit more closely... and then maybe things will stop looking like cover ups and conspiracies to you.

 

Yup, definitely reported on. Perhaps not all over the news but there could be a reason for that. Perhaps it doesn't get ratings because many Americans don't give a crap about what people are doing in other countries especially if they are bitching about losing benefits we don't even have and having to cut their vacation time from 6 weeks a year to 5 when the average american gets less than 2.

[Holeshot 3]

I have also been equally upset about the lack of coverage of crop circles. :ph34r:

[NJdiverTony 27]

Yup, definitely reported on. Perhaps not all over the news but there could be a reason for that. Perhaps it doesn't get ratings because many Americans don't give a crap about what people are doing in other countries especially if they are bitching about losing benefits we don't even have and having to cut their vacation time from 6 weeks a year to 5 when the average american gets less than 2.

 

It was reported on by many news outlets... I personally saw a few different reports on both Spain and Mexico on local news and also on CNN, and also saw a few articles online about it as well. I agree that there wasn't massive coverage about it, as Americans generally don't give a crap about political and economics issues happening in Europe or other countries. Also, the majority of my relatives live in Europe... I spent several years (7) living in Europe, and also traveled extensively to South America for several years... so I tend to pay more attention than your average Joe, to foreign news.

 

Also, you are right... Most Europeans get at least a whole month (or more) that they take off from work every year... so yeah, when the average American only gets 2 weeks a year to take off, I don't think Americans are too sympathetic about their "misfortune". Someone call the WAHHHH-MBULANCE! LOL!

 

For the OP to say that there is a massive media blackout or cover-up about what happened several weeks ago in these countries and calling these events "revolutions" is definitely a far stretch. No conspiracies here... sorry.

[NJdiverTony 27]

Just as an observation...

 

In contrast to these protests in Spain and Mexico, which had little coverage, and was largely blacked out by the media, did/does the same hold true for Egypt? Greece? Even Syria?

 

Well no. Those had/have MAJOR media coverage. Why? Well because the Egyptian protesters were US supported. The EU had a financial stake in Greece. And the overthrow of the Syrian government and Assad is obviously US backed and supported.

 

There's a BIG difference between Spain/Mexico and what happened in Egypt/Greece and especially Syria. Nobody is dying in the streets in Spain or Mexico due to these demonstrations or protests... In Egypt you had a government being overthrown and civilians being killed, in Greece they were fearing the collapse of the entire Eurozone and eventually the global economy, and in Syria there is full out civil war with more and more civilians dying every day! Much more newsworthy items for the media to cover, don't you think? In Spain and Mexico, the people went out to protest and then they went home... For the media outlets, what happened in Spain and Mexico was BORING in comparison to Egypt/Greece/Syria. That's why they didn't cover it non-stop. It's not beacuse of some government conspiracy to only report on US governement interests... Sheesh... You need to get out more, dude.

[Soju 153]

I actually agree with you..up until you called it a conspiracy that the media only likes to report on US government interests. That is, when it comes to main stream media, not a conspiracy, but rather a fact.

 

I'm sorry I wasn't able to watch the news non-stop from a deployed location that reports the news in Arabic, a language I do not speak or understand. I'll try to get out more.

[NJdiverTony 27]

I'm sorry I wasn't able to watch the news non-stop from a deployed location that reports the news in Arabic, a language I do not speak or understand. I'll try to get out more.

 

I don't give a fugg where you are... or where you are deployed... When you act like a know it all about something and you're not knowledgeable about what the OP posted, then you should be prepared to look like an ass. Don't use your deployment as an excuse or to make anyone feel bad for you.

 

In addition, I am ex-military... so now that I know that you're someone on active duty in our armed forces... I can't help but feel somewhat PO'd that someone who should be standing up for our country, comes onto this site and espouses all this BS about government conspiracies and your general distrust in our government. That's an insult to the uniform that you wear.

[robot_hell 72]

That's an insult to the uniform that you wear.

 

“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”

-- Mark Twain

 

I see no reason to require trust in government before giving respect to those who serve our country.

[Shawnmoore81 623]

If you think the government Never does things that are immoral your out of your mind.

 

 

[johnp 45]

“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”

-- Mark Twain

 

I see no reason to require trust in government before giving respect to those who serve our country.

 

 

THIS!

[TheWombat 67]

Going to www.google.com/news and typing in Mexico protest seems to find stories.

 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=mexico+protest&oq=mexico+pr&gs_l=news-cc.3.1.43j0l6j43i400.3559.7039.0.9229.11.7.1.3.3.0.63.369.7.7.0...0.0...1ac.vhElH7LUvgY

 

Not sure I see a conspiracy in the Mexico/Spain protests or reporting of. We're coming up to the Olympics, we've had a shooting in CO, Syria 'civil war' - plenty of stories that the media would assume the public would find more interesting and hence sell more papers etc.

 

The job of the news organizations is to make revenue by selling stories/papers, advertising etc whether western, eastern or elsewhere I don't see the level of objective news reporting that interests me which is why I rarely buy newspapers etc anymore. We (the public) seem to be more interested in sensationalism, scandals with celebrities etc. The news organizations are just reporting on stories that the public want to read/buy etc. Just go to your local supermarket/grocery store and look at the magazines/papers that people are buying.

 

TheWombat

[Shawnmoore81 623]

My town doesn't have a wawa so I rarely get the paper.

[NJdiverTony 27]

“Loyalty to country ALWAYS. Loyalty to government, when it deserves it.”

-- Mark Twain

 

I see no reason to require trust in government before giving respect to those who serve our country.

 

 

I have total respect and am greatful for all those that serve our country (yes, including for Mr. Conspiracy theory Bonesinium, even though I find his conspiracy theory mindset insulting to our country) but I also have a lot of respect for our country and its government... As I mentioned I was in the military as well. This doesn't mean that I am a fan of the current administration, or any other administration in particular... but as an American that believes in the greatness of this country, I would never throw ridiculous conspiracy THEORIES around (note they are THEORIES and not one single shred of real evidence has been shown to prove them) and disrespect my country or government in that way.

 

Do I think that all governments are completely innocent and never do anything wrong? Of course not! BUT thinking that there is a conspiracy behind everything that our government does or anything that happens in this crazy world is just ridiculous.

 

Why don't we try and get the thread back on track? The OP started this thread in regards to what happened in Spain and Mexico and making it seem like there was some grand conspiracy by our government to have the media not report on it. I think we very clearly established early on in the thread that this was NOT the case.

[Holeshot 3]

The job of the news organizations is to make revenue by selling stories/papers, advertising etc whether western, eastern or elsewhere

 

This, no ct bs

[Soju 153]

I have total respect and am greatful for all those that serve our country (yes, including for Mr. Conspiracy theory Bonesinium, even though I find his conspiracy theory mindset insulting to our country) ... but as an American that believes in the greatness of this country, I would never throw ridiculous conspiracy THEORIES around (note they are THEORIES and not one single shred of real evidence has been shown to prove them) and disrespect my country or government in that way.

 

As a matter of point, you are claiming I hold a position I never claimed to hold. I haven't said what my position has been on most of these topics. You also say "not one single shred of real evidence", only because you have chose to ignore all evidence, or claim some other sort of reason why it invalid, using logical fallacies. You only chose to attack the person rather then the subject, in an emotional response type fashion. Saying something is 'ridiculous' or 'disrespects my country' have no factual basis on an argument. That is called an ad hominem fallacy, where you chose to attack a person rather then their argument. Somebody could be the biggest POS in the world, but that alone has no bearing on the argument that person may make.

 

 

Do I think that all governments are completely innocent and never do anything wrong? Of course not! BUT thinking that there is a conspiracy behind everything that our government does or anything that happens in this crazy world is just ridiculous.

 

You continue to misrepresent my position entirely, even though I've spelled it out. I never claimed everything has a conspiracy behind it. I have stated over and over that just because you don't like something, doesn't mean that possibility CANnot exist. Again, you do nothing but hide behind somewhat apparent fallacies, ignore any facts contrary to your positions, and attack the person rather than the argument.

 

The fact that you are admitting that based off of emotion alone you won't even consider something, shows you don't even care how much evidence is shown, you won't believe it. I am well aware you can't and won't even try and look at something from another perspective besides your own, and you have a fixed opinion. That is fine. Your choice of willful ignorance is your own.

[bulpup 98]

Widespread protests over losing social benefits in democratic countries that are less than solvent is hardly compelling to me - and less so the masses if it is peaceful.

 

Calling it a revolution is absurd. Calling it a revolution and then making the unsubstantiated claim that governments are making requests to the media to squash the story falls under "please pay attention to me."

 

Yes, that's a lot of people. Show me this amount of people actually having a revolution and I will start to believe the protester's spin as we have seen it.

 

Case and point;

 

Google Spanish PROTESTS and see what you find.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Shawnmoore81 623]

Look at the comments on the link. The people in it are calling it a revolution. I'll trust them over any media source.

[Anselmo 87]

Look at the comments on the link. The people in it are calling it a revolution. I'll trust them over any media source.

 

Your level of distrust is interesting.

[bulpup 98]

Look at the comments on the link. The people in it are calling it a revolution. I'll trust them over any media source.

 

I'm not the kind of guy that sees socialists and communists under every rock, but workers rebellions (aka strikes and protests) are routinely called popular "revolution," by those particular political parties.

 

Being that the spanish socialist party is actually an electable party in that country, I would say this is also the case here.

 

As we have seen recently in the Arab states however, revolution takes on a decidedly bloody and warlike appearance.

 

So hats off to the legacy of trotsky and Lenin, whose followers fantasize to affect change as they did. Protests were always called revolution by communist parties across the globe.

 

In this case the economic failures of the country are being blamed on capitalism and those that are losing their entitlements (everyone in a socialist society) are angry.

 

Again, I am not one to be extolling the virtues of capitalism and pointing at every little thing as a socialist plot. That is a thing that happens in this country. In Spain they have viable socialist and communist parties. So don't fall for the almost assuredly communist propaganda that calls a protest a revolution.

 

That s-it is old, old school communist mind bending.

 

 

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[A-Tech 8]

Oh, another conspiracy thread. ::

[Anselmo 87]

Oh, another conspiracy thread. : :

 

Shocking, isn't it.