P2P Pistol: What if SELLER never files?

[avc8130 4]

I was looking at the bottom of my pistol purchase permits and noticed that it is the SELLER'S responsibility to send the appropriate carbon copies to the issuing PD and NJSP.

 

What if the seller never does that? It is clear that the seller would be violating a NJ statute as it is listed right on the permit. Could the BUYER be in trouble?

 

I have bought 2 pistols P2P. 1 was a close friend so I have no concerns. The other was a "stranger". Paranoia?

 

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[njJoniGuy 2,131]

If the seller doesn't send the top 2 copies in, the handgun is still registered to him on the NJSP registry.

His local PD also still thinks the handgun is under his control.

Lose/lose from the seller's perspective!

[PK90 3,570]

The seller would still be the registered owner if they do not send in the form. You as a buyer are not responsible.

[The_Matrix 105]

The seller would be an idiot not to send it in.

 

What if the buyer used the gun in a crime. The gun would be linked to the seller.

[MrSurfboard 1]

No, the buyer would no way, no how be in any kind of trouble.

[MicroChip 0]

Do what I did (which I got from another poster here). When you show up to meet the seller with your p2p, your FID (questionably necessary), your driver's license, and a wad of cash, and the seller shows up with the gun, also bring two envelopes, one already addressed to the state police and the other addressed to the local pd (as on the p2p), and put return addresses and a stamp on each. When you sit down and do the deal with the seller, both of you confirm the paperwork is accurately filled out, you each take your copy, and you put the proper copies in the envelopes, seal them, and then decide who will mail them. At that point it's too easy to mess up. Often you'll meet at a gun range or club to shoot the gun and then do the deal, you can even ask the gun club to put the envelopes in their outgoing mail.

 

Also, make a few copies of your copy and put one in the gun case, and another in your glove compartment.

 

MC

[djg0770 481]

Also, make a few copies of your copy and put one in the gun case, and another in your glove compartment.

 

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[Underdog 1,593]

I think the seller has like 5 days to mail the documents in. If your FID # is on there, I don't know why you need to fill out your other personal info.

[djg0770 481]

My concern as the buyer is "has the seller sent in the paperwork in a timely fashion" especially as it relates to OGAM - and when do they count the "date of transaction" on a personal sale?

[PK90 3,570]

The clock starts with the date on the permit.

[Holeshot 3]

If the seller doesn't send the top 2 copies in, the handgun is still registered to him on the NJSP registry.

His local PD also still thinks the handgun is under his control.

Lose/lose from the seller's perspective!

Not if the seller purchased the handgun prior to living in NJ and then moved to NJ.

The NJSP and/or Local PD would have no record of the handgun.

[Njgunowner 2]

As someone who just had to do this, you have to send the two top copies in. They are supposed to be received within 5 days of the sale. It specifically states that it is the SELLER'S responsibility to do this. I'd imagine if that didn't happen, then the seller would be FUBAR if it came up.

[PK90 3,570]

I can't control how fast the US Postal Service delivers the mail, so I will send them within 5 days. How long it takes is up to the Government.

 

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