scarecrow 0 Posted March 2, 2013 Was shooting 1" group at 50 yards from lead sled with Winchester 180gr. fmj. with 91/30 with ler scope. Did my best to zero at 100 yards from lead sled using sardine can surplus ammo. Gruops uppened up to 6"+ . I rarely shoot at 100 yards. So is it me the ammo or both? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallday 10 Posted March 2, 2013 I was out shooting some Spam can with my 91/30 yesterday and I can tell you at 50 yards I can keep tight groups but at 100 I get wider ones( That would be my fault) . Have you done anything to float or bed your barrel. How is the crown and muzzle? any dings or scratches? With all that I still would not expect match grade groups from a nagant. Good luck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usnmars 136 Posted March 2, 2013 there are several things that can be done to a mosin to make them shoot darn good. Crown and bore condition are number 1. They tend to like upward pressure on the end of the barrel so i normally put a piece of leather between the stock and the barrel right near the endcap of the stock. The "scout" scope setups are normally a POS when it comes to accuracy. Shoot with irons and see what it will do, i pretty much gurantee that it will shoot tighter groups than with the scope. Also a triger job is almost a must when it comes to accuracy on these. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarecrow 0 Posted March 2, 2013 there are several things that can be done to a mosin to make them shoot darn good. Crown and bore condition are number 1. They tend to like upward pressure on the end of the barrel so i normally put a piece of leather between the stock and the barrel right near the endcap of the stock. The "scout" scope setups are normally a POS when it comes to accuracy. Shoot with irons and see what it will do, i pretty much gurantee that it will shoot tighter groups than with the scope. Also a triger job is almost a must when it comes to accuracy on these. Yes I think I'm gonna ditch the scout scope. I also took my m44 with me which has a peep sight and it shot better to point of aim than the cheapo scope. What do you think of a red dot? or should I just stick to irons? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallday 10 Posted March 2, 2013 I love irons on my old rifles but its on you. I have these on my 91/30 and m44 love them much better then guessing wear to hold with the original front sight. http://www.smith-sights.com/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tallday 10 Posted March 2, 2013 I have also done this on my 92/30 and Yugo Mauser.. BTW if you want great accuracy from an old battle rifle look into a Mauser seems to be a ton of the Yugo ones on the market and can be had for around 300. http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=117820 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarecrow 0 Posted March 2, 2013 All good ideas. Much appreciated Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rightisright 3 Posted March 4, 2013 there are several things that can be done to a mosin to make them shoot darn good. Crown and bore condition are number 1. They tend to like upward pressure on the end of the barrel so i normally put a piece of leather between the stock and the barrel right near the endcap of the stock. The "scout" scope setups are normally a POS when it comes to accuracy. Shoot with irons and see what it will do, i pretty much gurantee that it will shoot tighter groups than with the scope. Also a triger job is almost a must when it comes to accuracy on these. Does that usually work better than free-floating? I have a few Mosins I was considering trying out my amateur 'smithing skills on. I did this: http://bananafufu.blogspot.com/2007/06/trigger-job-for-your-mosin-nagant-9130.html trigger job on an M44. It really lightened the pull w/o being dangerous. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
usnmars 136 Posted March 4, 2013 if you do it in conjunction with free floating you have great results. Most of mine like it near the end cap but a few like it a couple of inches closer to the chamber end of the barrel. it is a matter of finding the SWEET SPOT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites