EchoMirage

try wyoming http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2013/Introduced/HB0104.pdf

shall issue = will issue may issue = no issue

not to mention, all forced NICS will do is create MORE hoops for the LEGAL gun owners to jump through. giving in to that bullshyt is the same as bending over and letting them limit mags to 10rnds. youre giving, and giving, and giving, and NONE of it is stopping ANYTHING. so lets play his little game, and pretend theres forced NICS. you want to buy a gun FTF (IF thats still allowed). you have to call the NICS number.....and hope you get through. and if you dont, no gun. meanwhile, some scumbag criminal in patterson meets another criminal on a street corner, gives him $100 for an ALREADY ILLEGAL gun, walks into a bar to shoot an enemy, and hits a dozen innocent bystanders in the process. OR, someone kills their mother, stealing what was originally legal guns, and shoots up a school. so their kneejerk reaction is 'we have to get these illegal guns off the streets.....so lets force all legal transfers go through FFLs, since forced NICS didnt stop this.' so how did that accomplish anything the ONLY way any sane, rational gun owner and 2A advocate should ever even entertain the idea of forced NICS is with the stipulation of absolutely NO record of serial numbers given. you want to do NICS to check out the person....fine, you do that. you do NOT need to know what anyone is buying or owna. use NICS as what its supposed to be for....instant background check on purchaser. and even that is still an infringement

meh. i think i have around 40 92 mags. site says ready to ship, but then is a disclaimer at the bottom: Attention! We're sorry, due to high demand, the manufacturer is unable to provide a reliable "Date expected in stock," therefore we are unable to take a backorder. Please use our Notify Me feature to receive an alert as soon as the product arrives.

exactly. people still are blind to the fact that 95% of all shooting are done with ILLEGAL guns; stolen or otherwise. national NICS will do absolutely nothing to save lives

people forget that its the NRA that has the spotlight on them. its the NRA giving press conferences. its the NRA that is mentioned whenever a shooting happens. you never heard a news anchor saying 'we're waiting for a statement from the GOA/NJ2AS/SAF.' the NRA is the top dog in 2A rights, with the members, money, and political clout to get things done. im a member of ALL the 2A groups, and if youre the least bit passionate about 2A rights, everyone should be. but you should never knock the NRA for having a few points you disagree with, as HD said, we wouldnt be here without them.

you also have to take in consideration what the specific words meant back in the time it was originally written. words have slightly changed meanings over the past 200 years

face it. hes an arrogant, narcissist ass and all he wants to do is wave his PA license at everyone across the river. 99% of his posts drip with arrogance and a holier then thou attitude because 'i up and left NJ for PA so im therefore more pro2A and better then you.' funny, his mouth is shut on the penn. gun forum about such topics

keeping this on topic....................... at least some people are fighting fire with fire: http://www.theantiliberalzone.com/2012/12/24/this-is-how-stupid-liberals-are/

and here is it http://www.theantiliberalzone.com/2012/12/24/this-is-how-stupid-liberals-are/

and i will say, yet again, the glaring obvious point: how do you know lanza'a mother DIDNT have all her guns locked in a safe?? people are ranting and raving saying she didnt have them locked up, its all her fault, if they were locked, it wouldnt have happened.....so where is the proof that they WERENT locked up, and adam simply stole the keys/combo, and STOLE the guns? 'requiring' a safe will do absolutely nothing. you keep giving, and giving, and giving, and before you know it, its federal law to keep every single gun locked in a safe, with the ammo in another safe, a felony to have a loaded gun in the house, and then a felony to have a fully ASSEMBLED gun in the house. not one inch. youll never get it back.

the ro's need to stop and think about what their job really means, and how theyre treating the people there. my last trip, i took a friend as a guest. we were shooting at the pistol range, and were literally the ONLY PEOPLE THERE. not another soul on the pistol range. to keep things less messy, we used two benches. as we were packing up, the ro came over in the brand new gator and handed us a copy of their rules, saying how members have to share a bench with a guest. if there were anyone else on the range, thats one thing, and of course we'd share a bench. you can preach up and down about 'rules are rules', blah blah. but when 2 people are the ONLY ones on the ENTIRE range, take a step back and think before you try cramming rules down a members throat. are you really 'informing' someone, or are you just coming off as a douche with a superiority complex.

south of edison...pineys, pineys everywhere

its not about guns, its about control. they take, and take, and take. NO COMPROMISE. NOT ONE INCH. in this day and age, once they take, youll never get it back.

doucheburg did exactly that, then immediately changed the law back to the original term limits after he won his extra term. the fycking idiots in ny bought it hook, line, and sinker.

the term 'gun show loophole' came from people selling guns in the parking lot of a gunshow, face-to-face, thereby bypassing a NICS check. its perfectly legal and nothing wrong with it. the antis want to make it seem like its some shady backdoor deal.

it means you put a padlock into the locking mechanism once, and dont have to mess with it again. while a gang box may seem like a nice choice, you have to remember it will only be locked by a regular keyed lock, which can be picked or bumped. additionally, the steel is not that thick, and if someone wants to get into it, they will with nothing more then a grinder and cutoff wheel. you might as well go for a gun storage chest or cabinet, not a safe. its better then nothing and will slow down a thief, maybe making him move on to an easier target altogether.

im proud to have been a benefactor member for 10yrs. i joined the GOA today as a lifer, and im going to contribute more to both. some people thumb their noses at the NRA.....well the NRA is the top dog when it comes to gun rights. its the NRA that was attacked, its the NRA that gave the press conference, and its the NRA that is the largest and most public 2A rights advocate. you never hear of 'we're awaiting the GOA/SAF press conference.' join and contribute to them ALL

personally i would have liked to see more talk about anti-gun control, and the repercussions of such

funny how they let the protesters signs up for a minute each, giving plenty of screen and picture time. how much do you want to bet a pro NRA protester at an anti-gun rally would have been tackled instantly

you can fill out electronically and download them yourself. no need to go the station pistol permit: http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sts-033.pdf mental health: http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-066.pdf for future use (if there is a future), COE; http://www.njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/sp-634.pdf

minorities already think that of obama

the OP article may give me hope, but 2014 is a LONG way away. alot of bad shyt can happen between now and then. they could very well put the ban into place, hoping theyll control the rest of the majority later on, and keep the ban

im proud to say im a prepper. fyck anyone who thinks its a 'tin foil hat' thing. YOULL be the one laughing the next time a sandy storm hits, because you already have a generator, food and water stocked. going to cherry ridge will be akin to going to a walmart or mall.....there are hundreds, if not thousands, of other people who will think the same thing. so while it may actually be a good location for a SMALL group, say 20, there will be waves of people thinking the same thing and flooding the area. the only resource there is the clubhouse, with 2 bathrooms, and 2 kitchens. not enough room for the number of people who will migrate there.

ive said for years, the ONLY way to change the direction the county is going is a complete collapse. wipe the slate clean, and start new. voting doesnt work. the regime will never change. all of us who voted for romney know this. a republican vote in a democratic state is little more then a throw away protest vote. additionally, there is no way i trust the voting procedure anyway. bush stole both of his elections with voting machine tampering. that, and the electoral college are a disgrace to the citizen voters.