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FPID doesn't need to have your current address? Can you point out where that is in writing? Because it sure is a pain re-applying every time you move.

Right, you don't need a FPID to own a firearm in NJ (theoretically you could have owned it prior to the law being enacted in the 60s, or moved into NJ already owning a firearm legally acquired while you were resident elsewhere). BUT, if you live in NJ, you need that card to legally receive a gun. In other words, if you buy a gun and give it to your girlfriend, and she has no FPID, and she takes it to the range and gets pulled over, and she has no FPID to show the police, and she starts giving honest answers to the police about who she got the gun from, you are going to be in a spot where you need a lawyer really bad.

There are many people on here who are more knowledgeable about these things who will probably chime in but right off the bat: Since it comes with an evil pistol grip, you used up your list of evil items allowed in New Jersey. Keeping a good grip on a firearm so it doesn't fly out of your hands is evil, didn't you know? Thus: Adjustable stock is no-no. NJ State Legislature thinks ergonomic accommodations for different body sizes are evil. Non-adjustable stock that is too long or too short for most is not evil. - EDIT: Just realized you put down fixed stock, so you got that covered. Muzzle break? For a .22 LR? That's pushing it - .22LR has no recoil to reduce with a muzzle break in the first place. So I'd avoid the muzzle break. What's the difference between a flash suppressor (evil according to the legislature) versus muzzle brake? Who knows. The judge isn't going to know. If it suppresses flash, perhaps it's a flash suppressor and the gun is a felony. So do yourself a favor and leave that out. Threads on the muzzle might be illegal also, I forget. Better just to buy it from a NJ dealer who will know if what they are selling is compliant or not. Then, going back another step, buying it for your girlfriend. Does she have a FOID card? Are you going to do a certificate of eligibility when you give it to her? Or are you buying it in your name so you can allow her to use it at the range while you are next to her? Keep a NJ gun attorney's phone number in your wallet if you are driving around with something that looks like an AR-15 in the car. You might need to take advantage of that one phone call. The gun looks like an assault rifle to the cops. Many don't know the difference. The statute is vague enough to begin with.

The safest home for a child is one with discipline and accountability. Always has been always will be. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

I had hopes that when Cabelas was going to open in Xanadu that it would create enough interest for a range to open in the Meadowlands. So much for that. If you want to shoot the rifle every now and then, the drive to Easton Fish and Game is worth it since membership is only $60 for the first year and $30 thereafter and you can join online without having to deal with taking a class on the weekend or bringing target frames which is required at Cherry Ridge.

Does anyone have a link to their website? Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

The best thing you can do is call one of the gun attorneys listed in the back of the ANJRPC newsletter and get some real advice from someone knowledgeable. If you are an ANJRPC member, phone advice from a real attorney is free. I dont know why people dont take advantage of this. Dues for basic ANJRPC membership is so cheap. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

If you think you are frustrated now wait till you see a judge who has no gun knowledge butcher the arguments. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

Easton. Cherry Ridge might have a 200 and 300 yard range, but I don't like having to wait to change targets, especially when changing between pistol and rifle ranges (which ends up being an hour because you have to wait to get your target frame, and then go to the pistol range and wait to set up your target frame). I don't like having to bring target frames in the first place. In Easton you can set up targets at 25, 50 and 100 yards all at once, Cherry Ridge you can't do that. Cherry Ridge doesn't have a freestyle range which is much more fun to shoot pistol. People just seem more relaxed in Easton.

AF Boyer hardware in Pennsylvania gives cash right then and there and they dont lowball either. Bring a few there and get money, bring the collectible ones to Sarco in Pennsylvania, get money from them. I hear there is a place near the sands casino in penn that pays cash too. You could do that on and off for a year or two and sell off what you dont want. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

bry@n is a great person to deal with, and item was just as described and worked perfectly.

I don't think there is another side to this story - using real guns in a wild west re-enactment is just plain wrong, as well as being a violation of just about every rule of firearm safety. Blank guns exist for a reason.

My favorite is escape from new York when they mounted a rifle scope on the suppressor of snake's gun. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

Flipping the script backwards, every once and a while cell phone batteries short out and explode. Laptop batteries too. Maybe we should check our phones and have strict reasonable battery control laws enacted. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

Sure there are always problems. The problem with uniformity is that people end up being issued rifles to use that they dont like and dont perform as well with and have less confidence in, which were chosen by political people back home. Besides we have the situation of different guns out there already with M4s and M14s out there, different guns different ammo, plus SAWs plus sniping rifles plus whatever guns NATO allies carry. First and foremost consideration is does the soldier have the rifle that they feel the best using? They are the ones doing the work out there and they are going to be the ones who know best what works best for them and it takes hundreds of thousands of dollars to train them so if they want something else to fight with that they believe they will be more effective using and do a better job fighting with, i think we ought to spend a measly thousand bucks more so they can be provided with their first choice. It is the least we can do considering the risks they are being asked to take. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

How about the soldiers get to choose what they want to carry and use out of 4 or 5 choices. M16, M4, M14, SCAR, SIG550, Hk, whatever. They can try and decide what they prefer. 308 or 5.56. They are the ones doing th work they ought to have the tool of their choice. Seems to me these discussions are always about what everyone wants to force on others instead of what the guy who is on the ground actually wants to do the job and make it back from their deployment in one piece. If we can bring fast food courts to Iraq for the troops we ought to be able to supply the arm of their choice. Logistics for it would not be much different or much more difficult. Sent from my DROID2 GLOBAL using Tapatalk 2

I have a Mark II that has lead all inside, has been that way for like a year and a half, I have not got around to cleaning it out. It was so bad I couldn't get the end of a boresnake through the barrel, I had to chisel lead out with a ramrod just to be able to get the string through the barrel. Doing internet research, it seems that the easiest way is to buy one of those brass Chore Boy scrubbing pads and wrap bits of it around the brush and then use the brush. Supposedly it grabs onto the lead and pushes it right out of the barrel. Since I am not looking forward to doing the job, I bought chore boy pads, and after a year decided to use them to scrub pans and never got to use them to clean the barrel. Now I need to buy more to try to clean out the barrel. Good luck. People who are into casting their own bullets swear by chore boy pads wrapped around brass brushes so it should work.

PANYNJ does not have the option of deciding "not to" follow Federal law. Thanks to some brave people claiming the benefit of FOPA in Port Authority airports, and the the PANYNJ being sued by the ANJRPC and other organizations, the Port Authority has essentially been been forced to comply with FOPA under pain of being hauled into federal court and sued. And the fact that the Port Authority is now following FOPA is confirmed by the original poster of this thread, who documented his successful assertion of FOPA with the Port Authority Police and the TSA. That being the case, I still wouldn't go through New York, but not because it is illegal, but because I still don't trust the authorities in New York to follow the law with respect to this issue. You can still get jammed up and arrested if you have someone on duty at a particular time who wants to make a problem for you. Back in the mid 1990s I went through JFK with a target pistol - me and a whole group of students with target pistols - and I was not even 21 years old at the time, but we had US military orders and therefore state law was pre-empted even though none of the pistols had any NY registration. Our target pistols all went through checked luggage without a problem.

He didn't break the law, the Firearm Owners Protection Act, a federal law, nullifies any contrary NYC and NYS handgun law with respect to an interstate trip under the supremacy clause of the U.S. Constitution. This is a law that was passed by congress in 1986. The only risk he took here is the risk that the police and court system in New York City and the Port Authority Police would unlawfully arrest him and put him to retaining counsel to extricate himself from improper state prosecution. In other words, the only risk he took was that he might be unlawfully arrested and prosecuted in direct violation of federal law which precisely dictates that he was entitled to do what he did.

Yeah I agree. Anyone else? Nobody might be reading because the title of this string is so old (range closed in August?). Later today I'll post a new topic and see if we can get other people to reply. It would be neat if we had our own sub-forum. By the way how is the Bayonne PBA Range? I live in Jersey City but have never been to it, since to me it's just easier to go all the way to the PA border and make a day of it. Kipp

I second Johnny above, looking at the gunbroker ad, you can't even tell which caliber this gun is. Is it .223 or 7.62X39? It lists both calibers. The description also says "blued and stainless steel". Well which one is it? The pictures are blued but that doesn't mean that they aren't just random pictures grabbed from the internet. I wouldn't bid on a gun, or send money, if I was not certain what caliber it was, and if the seller doesn't know what caliber it is, and if the seller doesn't know the difference between blued and stainless steel. Very concerning!

Here's an interesting page from gunsamerica.com regarding fraudulent postings and postal money orders http://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/gunsamerica-endorses-usps-as-exclusive-form-of-non-credit-card-payment/ If you have a bad feeling about it, I wouldn't ignore the feeling. You could speak on the phone with the guy, ask him why his address doesn't work out and why his phone number is from the wrong state. See how he is. Has he sold anything before through gunbroker.com? Tell him you are going to send a postal money order, see if that spooks him. You could also ask him to bring the gun to a local dealer and pay the dealer to ship it to your NJ dealer. Then at least the dealer could confirm that he received it and it looked OK when you send the check, or you could send the check to the dealer down there too, and the dealer could hand over the check when he receives the gun for you. Let the dealer charge his marked up freight charge to compensate him for his time.

Also in the past 20 years lots of NJ gun owners have moved out of New Jersey if they had the opportunity, if a job opened up out of state. Each gun owner who left NJ in the past 20 years not only is one less vote but also is one less good example to sway neighbors' perceptions as to what a gun owner is. Hence the image many people in NJ have of gun owners is the image that Hollywood has fabricated - a suspicious person, someone to be afraid of. The neighbor who target shoots and is a nice person with a nice family no longer lives next to them. They have no concrete example to be a counter-example to the propaganda they see on television. To them a gun owner is someone who flips out and shoots his boss. It will be a struggle here to get our rights back.

How many people on this forum go to the EFGA range? Seems to me we ought to set up our own New Jersey Group - see the bottom of the main forum page - Central Jersey R&P and Bridgewater have their own forum page so they can keep track of each other and meet up over there. Would be cool if we had something like that set up on this forum too. I know that there are some in PA who don't like NJ people going over there, if we had a way to keep track of any problems and communicate with each other it would be a good idea. EFGA is going to be great once they get that clubhouse open.

Has anyone ever heard of problems shooting BB or pellet guns in their backyards in NJ? Because, looking at it from NJ law's ridiculous mindset, a BB gun is a firearm, and if you shoot it in your backyard, you are "discharging a firearm" within the town limits (and most towns ban discharge of firearms). My guess is this is a law that is never enforced in that way, but I'd be interested if anyone has had a bad experience. I used to shoot a Umarex copy of a S&W revolver pellet gun at a pellet trap in my basement all the time, great practice. I wish I had a basement to practice in now.