despite spike in gun sales murder rate has gone down.

[tony357 386]

http://www.examiner.com/x-4525-Seattle- ... ient-truth

[rscalzo 3]

The only problem is that the 2009 UCR doesn't come out until the middle of next year at the earliest. So they data for sales of firearms in 2009 is based on data from maybe 2008.

 

This article points it to be higher.

http://www.anandramlogan.com/homicidera ... tion09to10

 

NJ's rate is actually lower.

 

The point is, statistics can say whatever you want them to say. Whoever is producing the theory can back it up with sets of numbers without breaking a sweat. So anything I see stats bolstering a comment, a close look under the hood is called for before acceptance.

[djg0770 481]

The point is, statistics can say whatever you want them to say. Whoever is producing the theory can back it up with sets of numbers without breaking a sweat. So anytime I see stats bolstering a comment, a close look under the hood is called for before acceptance.

 

I agree, figures lie and liars figure. One must do their own research in order to validate the conclusions drawn by the author.

[Radek 73]

The only problem is that the 2009 UCR doesn't come out until the middle of next year at the earliest. So they data for sales of firearms in 2009 is based on data from maybe 2008.

 

This article points it to be higher.

http://www.anandramlogan.com/homicidera ... tion09to10

 

NJ's rate is actually lower.

 

The point is, statistics can say whatever you want them to say. Whoever is producing the theory can back it up with sets of numbers without breaking a sweat. So anything I see stats bolstering a comment, a close look under the hood is called for before acceptance.

 

FWIW: that article is on T&T.

 

Agree completely about stats. Stats get produced to put forward specific agendas and can focus on whatever the author wants. Causal relationship is someone's opinion, and is not scientific to make any conclusions since event(s) are caused by many factors/parameters. For example, what happens to rate of suicides in a bad economy, and how does that related to higher rates of gun purchases? Hmmm ... probably no connection.

[NJJim 37]

The only problem is that the 2009 UCR doesn't come out until the middle of next year at the earliest. So they data for sales of firearms in 2009 is based on data from maybe 2008.

 

This article points it to be higher.

http://www.anandramlogan.com/homicidera ... tion09to10

 

 

What the .... does Trinidad and Tobago predictions have to do with actual statistics from the US?

 

The article linked by Tony "Preliminary FBI crime figures for the first half of 2009 show crime falling across the country, even at a time of high unemployment, foreclosures and layoffs. Most surprisingly, murder and manslaughter fell 10 percent for the first half of the year.not 2008 figures."

 

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