Babaganoosh 192 Posted September 9, 2010 Just found this article/blog post interesting so reposting it. http://www.garymcbain.com/wp/?p=318 Back in the 1970s and 80s I was a police officer. At one point I left police service with a private investigator Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crackaloon 15 Posted September 9, 2010 To think that his story wouldn't even be possible here in NJ is disheartening. It does give some advance notice of the pitfalls of carry permits to keep in mind. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
karcirate 1 Posted September 12, 2010 Can someone post a link we can access? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tommy3rd 132 Posted September 12, 2010 It was accessible with the old site. I think it just got deleted when we switched formats Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Babaganoosh 192 Posted September 12, 2010 Ill find it again and post. Edit. Here it is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joecs1 11 Posted September 14, 2010 He was obviously not from NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgofnj 5 Posted September 14, 2010 While on the topic of carrying in public. I remember reading a story about a guy carrying a long gun in public in Washington D.C. Was this allowed becasue it is a Long Gun? I can't imagine one being able to do that in NJ in public. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
axeman_g 128 Posted September 17, 2010 Thoughful, but I have issue with his refusal to renew. One of the things I dislike the most about people is that they retreat from an issue or a challenge because it is a pain or there is something flawed in the scenario. It is always better to stay and be part of the solution instead of part of the problem. His refusal to renew his CCP in his state gives the one less person... gun grabbers love to cite those numbers as evidence that CC and gun ownership is not necessary in a modern world. I see his argument that he will carry again when all 2a rights are restored, but that aint never gonna happen in many states. He should have kept his license current and as a CC holder, fought for change from the inside. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Radek 73 Posted September 17, 2010 He is giving up for the wrong reasons. He is clearly not from NJ, sounds more like PA ... yet he is not renewing, because he is waiting for his full 2A rights handed on a platter! Ain't gonna happen on its own. He is naive when it comes to the whole legal system, not just the laws and statutes on the books, thinking that all 2A rights will be cleanly protected, no ifs and buts. Most laws/statutes are not black or white, they are ambiguous (by design) and more often than not subject to interpretation by the public, the judges and even the jury (which can be easily confused!) They shouldn't be, but that's the reality. Mindless laws get on the books when some idiot has an idea (or has nothing better to do) and it passes for several reasons, one of which is the gross incompetence by the ones voting on it without thorough review. Laws designed by committee is another common consequence, since "opinions are like a**-h*** and everybody has one". To make matters worse, add to that the misinterpretations and at times blantantly authoritarian and misguided enforcement by LEOs. Wrongful arrest suits be damned. Lawyers of course thrive on this like vultures. On a related note, since LEOs are not going to "serve and protect" the public (we have evidence of this; they should get out of the way), this makes a strong case for the right to self-defense / carry open or concealed, castle doctrine, and over arching 2A. Yes, even in NJ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xxcamelxxtosisxx 0 Posted September 23, 2010 On a related note, since LEOs are not going to "serve and protect" the public (we have evidence of this; they should get out of the way), this makes a strong case for the right to self-defense / carry open or concealed, castle doctrine, and over arching 2A. Yes, even in NJ! Despite what you may believe....... Police have no duty to protect you! The essay and stated case law found at www.firearmsandliberty.com/kaslerprotection. html proves beyond the possibility of misinterpretation that “police have no duty to protect an individual, because an individual is supposed to protect himself,” even women and children. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites