GSG 522 pistol legal in NJ???

[jcerillo70 16]

Im looking at these GSG 522 pistol's. And was wondering if these are NJ Legal.

 

-the really is no muzzle extending out to even put a brake on

-The mag is capped at 10

-Yes it does have a pistol grip

-No bayo lug

 

But the part where i get confused it when it comes down to not having a stock...

 

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another firearm i would be interested in is the Czech scorpion. The same deal, external magasine , no butt stock, etc

 

Thanks guys

[vjf915 456]

That has a "shroud" that allows you to hold the firearm around the barrel without burning your hands. It's illegal without even finding out how much it weighs.

[jcerillo70 16]

Thats too bad... CDNN has them for a very nice price.

 

 

 

 

 

[civictuner04 6]

I'm Intrested in the scorpion would be cool to have in the collection

[jcerillo70 16]

I'm Intrested in the scorpion would be cool to have in the collection

 

they're $399 !!!

 

in 32ACP

[vladtepes 1,060]

Im looking at these GSG 522 pistol's. And was wondering if these are NJ Legal.

 

-the really is no muzzle extending out to even put a brake on

-The mag is capped at 10

-Yes it does have a pistol grip

-No bayo lug

 

But the part where i get confused it when it comes down to not having a stock...

 

---------------

 

another firearm i would be interested in is the Czech scorpion. The same deal, external magasine , no butt stock, etc

 

Thanks guys

 

asking about pistol.. but posting rifle AWB qualifiers...

 

a pistol is considered an AW and illegal IF

 

A: it is banned by name

 

or

 

B: the ability to accept a detachable magazine AND has at least TWO of the following:

 

(1) An ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

(2) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor,

forward handgrip, or silencer;

(3) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles the barrel and

that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being

burned;

(4) Manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded

(5) A semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm; and

 

 

illegal IMO...

[alowerlevel 77]

It weighs more than 50 oz's. -- WEIGHT: 84.8 oz http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?item=GERG522PKB10

[zoid 24]

It weighs more than 50 oz's. -- WEIGHT: 84.8 oz http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?item=GERG522PKB10

 

Everyone knows that once a pistol exceeds 50oz it comes to life and annihilates every

living thing around it. There's nothing anyone can do to stop it. Common knowledge

really.

[KpdPipes 388]

Everyone knows that once a pistol exceeds 50oz it comes to life and annihilates every

living thing around it. There's nothing anyone can do to stop it. Common knowledge

really.

Ridiculous or not 50oz is the limit..Don't like it? move out of state or run for office.

[halbautomatisch 60]

Im looking at these GSG 522 pistol's. And was wondering if these are NJ Legal.

 

-the really is no muzzle extending out to even put a brake on

-The mag is capped at 10

-Yes it does have a pistol grip

-No bayo lug

 

But the part where i get confused it when it comes down to not having a stock...

 

---------------

 

another firearm i would be interested in is the Czech scorpion. The same deal, external magasine , no butt stock, etc

 

Thanks guys

Scorpion is legal, you just can't have the 20 round mags.

 

That GSG 522 most likely not.

[jcerillo70 16]

Scorpion is legal, you just can't have the 20 round mags.

 

That GSG 522 most likely not.

 

Im buying the scorpion tuesday if thats the case!!!

[vladtepes 1,060]

Scorpion is legal, you just can't have the 20 round mags.

 

That GSG 522 most likely not.

 

 

how much does the scorpion weigh?

[alowerlevel 77]

how much does the scorpion weigh?

 

According to CZ's website (http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/vz-61-skorpion/), 2.6lbs or about 42oz's

[jcerillo70 16]

Regarding the Skorpian and if its NJ legal

Do i call the NJSP to double check? Or call CDNN (The seller)

[vladtepes 1,060]

Regarding the Skorpian and if its NJ legal

Do i call the NJSP to double check? Or call CDNN (The seller)

 

 

find an ffl who will transfer... that is normally a pretty good start..

 

 

a pistol is considered an AW and illegal IF

 

A: it is banned by name

 

or

 

B: the ability to accept a detachable magazine AND has at least TWO of the following:

 

(1) An ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip;

(2) A threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor,

forward handgrip, or silencer;

(3) A shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles the barrel and

that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being

burned;

(4) Manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded

(5) A semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm; and

 

I see (1) as a problem.. rest seems ok? don't know about (5) it is pretty vague but IS there a fully auto version? I am not that knowledgeable about this series of firearms..

[PK90 3,570]

Does #5 really matter? Is the Glock 17 banned because of the Glock 18? (rhetorical)

[chris327 30]

I believe gsg has the ny version. 48oz, no shroud, I think it would be legal but not sure.

[vladtepes 1,060]

Does #5 really matter? Is the Glock 17 banned because of the Glock 18? (rhetorical)

 

 

without nit picking.. I will just say this.. number 5 is yet another example of how law does not follow practice..

but with that said..

Glock does not satisfy TWO qualifiers.. only one.. thus legal..

[PK90 3,570]

duh .

[jcerillo70 16]

find an ffl who will transfer... that is normally a pretty good start..

 

 

 

 

I see (1) as a problem.. rest seems ok? don't know about (5) it is pretty vague but IS there a fully auto version? I am not that knowledgeable about this series of firearms..

 

There is a full auto version, But like you guys said about the Glocks... So i mean, maybe ill call up and see

[vladtepes 1,060]

There is a full auto version, But like you guys said about the Glocks... So i mean, maybe ill call up and see

 

that would make it illegal as the law is literally written...

 

glock only satisfies one dis-qualifier and therefore is legal..

 

but it is all up to you.. (and your participating FFL)

[halbautomatisch 60]

If you want a dealer that will do the transfer on a Scorpion send me a PM.

[chris327 30]

http://www.americantactical.us/1694/detail.html

 

Still don't get why this would be a no go? Weight is 48oz. No shroud. Only 1 evil the magazine.

[vjf915 456]

I'd still call that Scorpion illegal. To me, there's enough room between the magazine and the bare barrel to hold with your support hand. Although it's not a "shroud", I think it is still disqualified because the pistol satisfies #1, #3, and possibly #5. I would imagine that in order for it to be a "semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm", it would also have to be the same caliber. Isn't this pistol a .22? If so, I don't think it would qualify for #5 unless there was an automatic version in .22.

[chris327 30]

The scorpian its 32acp I believe.

[vladtepes 1,060]

I'd still call that Scorpion illegal. To me, there's enough room between the magazine and the bare barrel to hold with your support hand. Although it's not a "shroud", I think it is still disqualified because the pistol satisfies #1, #3, and possibly #5. I would imagine that in order for it to be a "semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm", it would also have to be the same caliber. Isn't this pistol a .22? If so, I don't think it would qualify for #5 unless there was an automatic version in .22.

 

 

the part you would "hold" is the receiver and the barrel is forward of that.. the barrel is out in the open.. IMO of course..

 

I almost feel like 5 exists so they can screw you if they feel like it..

[halbautomatisch 60]

I'd still call that Scorpion illegal. To me, there's enough room between the magazine and the bare barrel to hold with your support hand. Although it's not a "shroud", I think it is still disqualified because the pistol satisfies #1, #3, and possibly #5. I would imagine that in order for it to be a "semi-automatic version of an automatic firearm", it would also have to be the same caliber. Isn't this pistol a .22? If so, I don't think it would qualify for #5 unless there was an automatic version in .22.

The Scorpion's only evil feature is #1, there is no shroud and if you fire it enough you could get burned since it's all metal. #5 would be a reach on any gun, and this one has been changed from the FA design - it doesn't have the ability to accept a collapsible stock, nor does it have a threaded barrel - aside from the semi components.

[halbautomatisch 60]

http://www.americantactical.us/1694/detail.html

 

Still don't get why this would be a no go? Weight is 48oz. No shroud. Only 1 evil the magazine.

If it is indeed 48oz (it doesn't say that in your link) it would be legal as far as I can tell.

[jcerillo70 16]

http://www.cz-usa.co...vz-61-skorpion/

 

2.6 pounds = 41.6 ounces

[KpdPipes 388]

without nit picking.. I will just say this.. number 5 is yet another example of how law does not follow practice..

but with that said..

Glock does not satisfy TWO qualifiers.. only one.. thus legal..

Actually the Glock DOESNT count...Just to pick nits. The G-18 was a Select-fire Copy of a semiautomatic pistol..Not the other way around. The Model 17 was developed first, the 18 was derived from the 17's design.