What if 1 million gun owners in NJ simultaneously applied for CCW?

[Ten Tenth's 0]

I read somewhere that the state has 60 days to deny a CCW application or it is automatically approved. So what if 1 million gun owners in NJ applied all the same time? I would be hard pressed to believe the state or judge have the manpower to deny 1 million applications in 60 days.

[Candide 0]

The govt would still win.

[unclenunzie 3]

Sure they do. Each local police chief would deny every application, and if they ran close to the 60 days they'd post the denials in a bulk list, publicly, in each police station. Or do some other simple thing to defeat the law.

[RubberBullets 65]

They would let the time expire.. someone will file suit, and the defendant will prove extenuating circumstances.. most likely in NJ politics and law, the govt will win

[DirtyDigz 1,812]

You'd see an emergency injunction from a Judge which overrides the automatic granting.

[Dan 177]

With the old fashioned paper process, they wouldn't be able to even read/input all the the apps in 60 days. Plus each denial requires an explanation from the denying party (CLEO/Judge, etc). Then there is the right to appeal to the courts....

 

It would obviously gum up the system with massive delays, and not a single F**K would be given by NJ. It has already been legislated from the bench that NJ is not legally bound to follow time frames as outlined in the firearms statutes.

 

The best outcome of this would be any press coverage ,along with further ammunition on how NJ's claim that they do not trample on 2A rights by having a CCW permit process is a farce since 99.999% of the applications would be denied.

[unclenunzie 3]

Kind of like how federal law requires a process to lift firearms disability, but the house always denies funding for it, So a felon can apply to get their rights back, but a felon can't apply to get their rights back. All at once.

[DevsAdvocate 112]

I read somewhere that the state has 60 days to deny a CCW application or it is automatically approved. So what if 1 million gun owners in NJ applied all the same time? I would be hard pressed to believe the state or judge have the manpower to deny 1 million applications in 60 days.

 

The State will be shamed by it's inadequacies.

 

I'd be down to join a part of this plan. We don't even need the whole state to do it, just one town.

[A-Tech 8]

First 999,999 people would be denied. Second, we don't have that many willing gun owners in this state.

[BarkNBite 15]

Don't see CCL's in NJ in my lifetime........Unfortunately.

[deleteme 0]

I read somewhere that the state has 60 days to deny a CCW application or it is automatically approved. So what if 1 million gun owners in NJ applied all the same time? I would be hard pressed to believe the state or judge have the manpower to deny 1 million applications in 60 days.

 

"Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light"

 

I instantly thought of egon spengler

 

 

[PDM 91]

Pretty ambitious. You couldn't get 1,000 people in this State to show up for a pro-gun rally let alone 1 million apply for CCW.

[Ten Tenth's 0]

That's too bad, it would fun as he'll if we could organize it though. Something NJ2AS could explore. I want to leave this state so bad.

[hd2000fxdl 422]

Pretty ambitious. You couldn't get 1,000 people in this State to show up for a pro-gun rally let alone 1 million apply for CCW.

 

Really. Would have been nice to see 1000000 more gun owners on Election Day in this state show up and vote who believe in their rights also.

 

 

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[KpdPipes 388]

With the old fashioned paper process, they wouldn't be able to even read/input all the the apps in 60 days. Plus each denial requires an explanation from the denying party (CLEO/Judge, etc). Then there is the right to appeal to the courts....

 

It would obviously gum up the system with massive delays, and not a single F**K would be given by NJ. It has already been legislated from the bench that NJ is not legally bound to follow time frames as outlined in the firearms statutes.

 

The best outcome of this would be any press coverage ,along with further ammunition on how NJ's claim that they do not trample on 2A rights by having a CCW permit process is a farce since 99.999% of the applications would be denied.

 

Blanket statement issue of "Justifiable Need for the following permits (Followed by an alphabetical list) was not found as per Judge Doe"

[Metalflames 0]

Politics is all about playing the game. You can't win if you don't play. But I do agree getting the number of people together to get the attention of anyone of significance is the problem.

[Jpistol 0]

The other problem told to me by my local pd. " if you apply for a ccw permit and are denied you must select yes for being denied firearms in the past on all future firearms, pp paperwork" which at the very least would slow up any handgun permits if not deny you outright.

[robot_hell 72]

I would never apply for CCW in NJ because it would be denied, and for the rest of my life I'd need to check "yes" next to "have you ever been denied a gun permit".

 

No thanks.

[quikz 34]

Pipe dream. The ASSembly will make yet another NANNYlaw.

[gunguy1960 2]

If we could drop off the paperwork the day before the next huge hurricane hits we might have a chance, anyway points for thinking it up.

[DevsAdvocate 112]

I would never apply for CCW in NJ because it would be denied, and for the rest of my life I'd need to check "yes" next to "have you ever been denied a gun permit".

 

No thanks.

 

...and then? I don't see how them denying you for a CCW can really affect you any other way. Just write down: "did not show justifiable need for CCW" or something. It's not like you become a prohibited person by being denied.

[tony357 386]

only bad thing would be possibly being linked to a group and then being denied on any pistol applications or long gun forms..

[Ten Tenth's 0]

As Reagan said once, let the voters vote with their feet. I would if I could move out of NJ.

[johnp 45]

I would never apply for CCW in NJ because it would be denied, and for the rest of my life I'd need to check "yes" next to "have you ever been denied a gun permit".

 

No thanks.

 

There is a difference between being denied by a corrupt political system who found no justifiable need.

 

And.

 

Being denied because you were a threat to yourself or others.

[DevsAdvocate 112]

only bad thing would be possibly being linked to a group and then being denied on any pistol applications or long gun forms..

 

Then you could appeal it and win. Unless you are part of some group...

[DevsAdvocate 112]

As Reagan said once, let the voters vote with their feet. I would if I could move out of NJ.

 

NJ isn't perfect by a long shot, but moving is a PITA for a lot of people. Do I give up my nice job, home, nice town, friends, family, all so I can carry a gun or have a 30 round magazine? Ideally, I'd like both.