Handyman 5,682 Posted February 11, 2013 I guess that pissing off an ex-LAPD officer has worked out so well they figured they might as well try it with a Navy SEAL. Is this really what this country has come to? The people that go into harms way and risk life and limb every day get crapped on by the federal bureaucracy? My pride in being American has been degenerating rapidly over the last 12 months, and it shows no signs of slowing down. Navy SEAL Who Killed Osama Bin Laden Reportedly Left Uninsured After Leaving Service The Navy SEAL Team Six member who shot and killed Osama bin Laden has opened up about the hardships of life after the mission. In an interview with Esquire titled "The Man Who Killed Osama bin Laden … Is Screwed," the former SEAL told journalist Phil Bronstein that upon leaving the service in September 2012, he lost benefits ranging from current health care to a future pension. And now he's stuck in a months-long wait for his disability claim to be considered.He had survived his last deployment, and there was a barbecue near his house to celebrate with about thirty close friends from "the community." The Redskins were on, his favorite team, and there was lots of Commando ale, brewed by a former SEAL. "I left SEALs on Friday," he said the next time I saw him. It was a little more than thirty-six months before the official retirement requirement of twenty years of service. "My health care for me and my family stopped at midnight Friday night. I asked if there was some transition from my Tricare to Blue Cross Blue Shield. They said no. You're out of the service, your coverage is over. Thanks for your sixteen years. Go fugg yourself." The Center for Investigative Reporting (CIR), for which Bronstein serves as executive chairman, notes that this SEAL's case falls in line with 820,000 instances in which veterans are mired in a backlog for disability help. "It was nearly impossible to believe when he first told me he got such a dearth of support from the U.S. government," Bronstein said in the CIR report. "Where’s the thank you?" In a Monday interview with NBC's "Today Show," Bronstein spoke with host Matt Lauer about the crux of his Esquire piece -- the post-military struggles that veterans face. Even if the SEAL had served a full two decades, Bronstein told "Today" that he would have received just $2,197 per month. A Navy chorus member with that time of service is eligible for the same package. "It's a nine-month average wait for regular vets to get their disability claim adjudicated," Bronstein said. "In this guy's case, his health care that he got, called Tricare from the military, ended the night he left. He gets no pension, none, zero." "So the guy in the Navy choir gets the exact same pension [as] the guy we're asking to be the new face of warfare around the world," Lauer remarked. "Yes, exactly," Bronstein replied. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bully 749 Posted February 11, 2013 Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... By the execution of one man, this SEAL saved countless lives. This is a travesty. C Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted February 11, 2013 wow..what a disgrace. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nikos 31 Posted February 11, 2013 Unfortunately, it doesn't surprise me. What a shame. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bhunted 887 Posted February 11, 2013 Bad enough they don't get credit for most of the things they do, they have the nerve to screw him this way? What the Frack! >:-( Sent from John's iPad 2 via Tapatalk HD Typos courtesy Apple... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 11, 2013 20 years. Those are the rules. And now he's stuck in a months-long wait for his disability claim to be considered. Nothing out of the ordinary. If he became disabled during military service, he will be compensated. Either way, he will always have the VA. I spend a lot of time working there. It's a hell of a safety net. You get hazardous duty pay for being a SEAL. Maybe you get AIRBORNE pay, a lot of the time. Maybe you get something else. You don't get Powerball. I didn't read anything that sounded out of the ordinary. If there's a fund I'll contribute. No doubt about it. I'm sure there is one and I will. We all should. Don't get mad because the government doesn't treat this guy any better than somebody who lost their arms, legs, cock, and eyesight. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMan 45 Posted February 11, 2013 I have to agree with mipafox. When I joined back in 2005; I was aware that I had to serve 20. If I decide to become special forces; that doesn't change the fact that I have to serve 20. As an E-5 in the army I get paid the same as another e-5 who could be in the army band for all I know. As a ranger,special forces troop or Seal, You get a bigger bonus for re-up and special skills pay throughout your career, once your 20 is up you get the same ol pension as everyone else. Deciding to become a special troop is a choice. you don't just get handed all types of special skills coming into the military. I'm sorry but 20-16=4 years due. You wanted to became a seal and I'm sure when you did you had to know about your retirement plan and the types of missions you could be assigned. You were awarded with valor for what you and your team did. The U.S is thankful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaiser7 33 Posted February 12, 2013 Well, why would they payout? Election season is over, and they already had the political win for that OP. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted February 12, 2013 20 years. Those are the rules. Nothing out of the ordinary. If he became disabled during military service, he will be compensated. Either way, he will always have the VA. I spend a lot of time working there. It's a hell of a safety net. You get hazardous duty pay for being a SEAL. Maybe you get AIRBORNE pay, a lot of the time. Maybe you get something else. You don't get Powerball. I didn't read anything that sounded out of the ordinary. If there's a fund I'll contribute. No doubt about it. I'm sure there is one and I will. We all should. Don't get mad because the government doesn't treat this guy any better than somebody who lost their arms, legs, cock, and eyesight. Very true. What is really screwed up is that these guys have to do 20 to get their retirement. Meanwhile we send mostly useless, worthless self-serving scum to Washington and after 1 term as Senator and, as I heard tonight, 5 years(not 1 term) as a Representative, they get a pension and healthcare for life. Really F*CKED UP!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheMan 45 Posted February 12, 2013 Very true. What is really screwed up is that these guys have to do 20 to get their retirement. Meanwhile we send mostly useless, worthless self-serving scum to Washington and after 1 term as Senator and, as I heard tonight, 5 years(not 1 term) as a Representative, they get a pension and healthcare for life. Really F*CKED UP!!! F*cked up is right!!! And pathetic is what it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted February 12, 2013 I know I'm going to catch flak for this. But in a country where many union pensions are vested at 10 years, and our best warriors and even officers last around 12, I think there should be a partial military pension around 10 years. I don't care what you do, getting $20K to $120K after only 20 years of employment is ridiculous to begin with. But if we want to give that to our servicemen, I think we have to understand that it's not either 4 and Echo Tango Suitcase or 20 and gold watch anymore. "Lifers" are 11-12 years. So, if we are going to do it this way, we should give them something prorated at 10. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Handyman 5,682 Posted February 12, 2013 I know I'm going to catch flak for this. But in a country where many union pensions are vested at 10 years, and our best warriors and even officers last around 12, I think there should be a partial military pension around 10 years. I am with you there. With all the silly shite we waste money on, we should support our troops. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted February 12, 2013 I know I'm going to catch flak for this. But in a country where many union pensions are vested at 10 years, and our best warriors and even officers last around 12, I think there should be a partial military pension around 10 years. I don't care what you do, getting $20K to $120K after only 20 years of employment is ridiculous to begin with. But if we want to give that to our servicemen, I think we have to understand that it's not either 4 and Echo Tango Suitcase or 20 and gold watch anymore. "Lifers" are 11-12 years. So, if we are going to do it this way, we should give them something prorated at 10. No flak here Ed. Agree 100%! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLineFish 615 Posted February 12, 2013 i would support that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Dirt 3 Posted February 12, 2013 Yes there should be a 10 yr and out pension. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peterk2000 0 Posted February 12, 2013 True American Heros - All of them! Why quit early? After what he did I would think they would let him have any assignment he wanted to ride out his 4 years. He could been guarding a beach in Hawaii. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites