Vlad G 345 Posted December 22, 2013 I attach a light with a VTAC mount strapped to the top rail, because my tube still has a top rail. Also HE, damn you all to hell, I now REALLY want one of those fusion mounts Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted December 22, 2013 But isn't that the advantage of keymod. What if your top rail is already used. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad G 345 Posted December 22, 2013 But isn't that the advantage of keymod. What if your top rail is already used. Then I add rail bits where I need them. I'm not sure what the confusion is. Take a look at a Troy Alpha rail. See those big holes? They have rail panels that fit in to those and attach to the tube. You can add bits of rail where you want them. If you really want you can make it a quad rail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,677 Posted December 22, 2013 While that would work, it still doesn't attach to the tube rail Like I said, there are many options. Where to put the light, what kind of switch (momentary, tape switch, click-on/click-off), what other items need to go on the rifle, what could interfere with what, what is my hand position on the tube, etc.... Once you answer these, you can start looking at mounts to work for what you want. Currently on my rifles I like the light between 10:00 and 11:30 (FSB being 12:00) If I was limited to using the slots on the tube to mount, I would probably use something from IWC, like their Mount-N-Slot version of the TH Thorn Tail - http://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/radial-universal-light-mount-n-slot-for-handheld-lights/ I currently don't have any tube style handguards on any of my rifles - although I am looking at putting one of Troy's offerings (the Alpha or maybe the Delta with the cutout for the FSB) on one of them. On 3 of my rifles with MOE handguards I use the MOE Scout Mount Left - all these carbines have mounted is a light and vert grip, so the MOE gets it done for now. On my 3 railed rifles I have a LaRue LT606 mounted at 12:00 with the light to the left of the mount on one, a VTAC mount at 12:00 with the light to the left on another, and a VTAC mount at 9:00 with the light above on my S&W M&P15-22. All options put the lights in very close to the same position and all rifles have a vertical grip that I use as a handstop in the "half-retarded" grip as a reference point to place my hand right where I want it to run the switches (I prefer click-on/click-off or "clicky" switches). I attach a light with a VTAC mount strapped to the top rail, because my tube still has a top rail. Also HE, damn you all to hell, I now REALLY want one of those fusion mounts They make some nice stuff Their milled Glock slides with the ATOM mount are nice too... And..... You should see the lever gun stuff they are messing with now - a light mount for a SF Scout light and a sidesaddle type ammo carrier for a Levergun. Damn sexy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted December 22, 2013 Didn't realize iwc had that type of stuff. Seems to be less of an advantage of keymod now but I do think as the year goes on it will get more popular and supported. I like mine but I have a dislike for quad rails for the most part. I probably would have considered the Troy vtac or even the geissele rail had keymod not been available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,677 Posted January 7, 2014 I am going to leave this right here: http://www.bravocompanymfg.com/downloads/kmr.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted January 7, 2014 nice. thats very similar to how i setup my noveske. love BCM stuff too!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtToadette 59 Posted January 8, 2014 I am going to leave this right here: http://www.bravocompanymfg.com/downloads/kmr.pdf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redtornado23 0 Posted January 8, 2014 wow, that looks awesome. nice and light, great finish, keymod and it's bcm. if i were building my next project right now, this would be on the top of the list. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MidwestPX 172 Posted January 8, 2014 The BCM KMR looks like a homerun on paper. I was wondering when someone would change the conversation from aluminum to AlMg with handguards the way it was done with Mag Tactical and lower receivers. Too bad I don't deal in more BCM stuff since they're extremely selective of who can carry their full line. I hope RSR is able to pick up the rail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5th4x4 0 Posted February 27, 2014 I realize that this is an old(ish) thread.... but where did you get that case?!!!! That's sweet. I'd appreciate some info. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,677 Posted February 27, 2014 On a related note: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-KMR13-Free-Float-Handguard-p/bcm-kmr13.htm I got the email today that the BCM rails are available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted February 27, 2014 I realize that this is an old(ish) thread.... but where did you get that case?!!!! That's sweet. I'd appreciate some info. Thanks! AR15.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted February 27, 2014 So what products mount directly to tube that doesn't get mounted to a picatinny first? I'm not familiar with the tube rails all that much All the impact product line. Which also happens to make up the majority of the items that connect directly to keymod without putting picatinny rail in between. There are a number of third party rail segment makers for both tube mount and keymod. Keymod had a handful of people making sling adapters that are direct mount that tube mount doesn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted February 27, 2014 I realize that this is an old(ish) thread.... but where did you get that case?!!!! That's sweet. I'd appreciate some info. Thanks! https://store.ar15.com/product.html?cat=24&pr=572 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5th4x4 0 Posted March 3, 2014 https://store.ar15.com/product.html?cat=24&pr=572 Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
blksheep 466 Posted March 3, 2014 Thats a interesting case my man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtToadette 59 Posted May 12, 2014 Just ordered a Keymod VFG from BCM and two sets of handstop kits from Midwest Industries. I'll update here after they arrive and I install them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtToadette 59 Posted May 18, 2014 Just installed both the BCM vertical grip and the Midwest Panels. I think I'll be keeping this set up. Feels great. The Midwest panels are winners. Definitely better than KAC and Noveske. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted June 10, 2014 What did you use to remove the noveske panels? I don't want to scratch the rails up too bad using 5 screwdrivers at once Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtToadette 59 Posted June 10, 2014 What did you use to remove the noveske panels? I don't want to scratch the rails up too bad using 5 screwdrivers at once Fingernails if they're long enough. Other than that any non-metallic pry small enough to fit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites