Krdshrk 3,877 Posted January 30, 2015 We have vendors who give the site a good amount of money to keep it up and running - they're actual forum vendors who are FFLs... Non-vendor FFL's suddenly jumping in and advertising their wares on the site without paying get them up in arms - and for good reason. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 30, 2015 Actually it's beyond that. Jon had it to do with it. I was wiling to pay my fair ahare Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 30, 2015 But back to the real story When you stop someone with an ar how do you inspect the brake Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 30, 2015 Do you guys spell check or proof read what you write? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted January 30, 2015 So I only see a 01 and an 06 FFL registered in Carney Point. I don't see an 07 FFL holder which is what I think you need to do what you are doing.... http://www.atf.gov/content/firearms/firearms-industry/listing-FFLs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted January 30, 2015 Do you guys spell check or proof read what you right? Do you? I assume you meant "What you write?" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 30, 2015 http://hometownfirearms.net/ Ffl is in Stratford I have a pink card But back to the real question Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 30, 2015 An FFL01 can do the mods with a customer's already owned firearm as it is gunsmithing. An FFL07 can modify them pre-sale, but they must engrave their info on it. A non-licensee can do neither. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 30, 2015 I have the ammo connections and the knowledge. That's what started the business and the problem on here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 30, 2015 Do you? I assume you meant "What you right?" I can change what you type also. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 30, 2015 Can we get back to my topi The mods will lock it if bot Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 30, 2015 Many pinned and/or welded factory firearms that I have seen are "clean". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted January 30, 2015 I can change what you type also. :P I changed nothing and you know it:P :P :rofl: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 30, 2015 So if a guy is stopped is a paper ok? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted January 30, 2015 An FFL01 can do the mods with a customer's already owned firearm as it is gunsmithing. An FFL08 can modify them pre-sale, but they must engage their info on it. A non-licensee can do neither. But if I buy a stripped lower, build it into a rifle, and sell it I would need an FFL07 and I have to pay the 11% FET correct? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 30, 2015 No, in the eyes of the state a stripped lower is a rifle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 30, 2015 But if you buy a stripped lower, build it into a rifle, and sell it I would need an FFL07 and I have to pay the 11% FET correct? I meant an FFL07. Correct. And it must be stamped with the FFL07s info. But, an FFL07 can build up to 50 firearms per year without paying the excise tax. The trick is to sell the parts then do the mods. So if a guy is stopped is a paper ok? Probably will never be an issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 30, 2015 I had a couple go through superior courts. But I want to make it look like it was never weldedz Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 30, 2015 Are receipts given with the labor description? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted January 30, 2015 No, in the eyes of the state a stripped lower is a rifleI don't think that is correct Shawn - As a NJ resident you can't buy a stripped lower in PA anymore. In any event we are taking about FFLs. You know what the first F is for right? It ain't NJ. And, if I remember correctly, assembling an AR from parts that you own in order to sell a complete finished rifle is manufacturing. Assembling a complete rifle from parts owned by someone else is gunsmithing. Hopefully Paul will confirm. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 30, 2015 Hometown is an FFL01. If the modifications are being done to non-banned firearms to make them NJ compliant for sale, then the dealer must be an FFL07 and they must stamped their info on the firearm. This is the legal way to do it. Now I am not saying that I never modded firearms for sale purposes. You just need to fly under the radar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 30, 2015 If push comes to shove, even assembling a receiver into a firearm by a non-licensee is manufacturing, and is against the law in NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 30, 2015 Yes federal Believe it or not distributors won't ship anything that isn't nj legal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,664 Posted January 30, 2015 You just need to fly under the radar. You do realize that this is Shawn we are talking about here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Barms 98 Posted January 30, 2015 What is this piece of paper gonna say? "Muzzle break pinned by FFL?" Or something like that? If that is a get out of jail free card then I will just get one done by that FFL and then every subsequent rifle I own I would just glue on the brake and use that piece of paper as my backup and say "he said he pinned it i guess he ripped me off" (because the work was so clean) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 30, 2015 Bans is getting to what a day. What's the law. Nowhere does it say an ffl has to do ir Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted January 30, 2015 Also where does it say what permanently attached. The njsp said it has to destroy the barrel to temive. But I'd that in writting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted January 30, 2015 My head hurts. I'm with you. This thread is so lame. Most of the others are too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted January 30, 2015 Also where does it say what permanently attached. The njsp said it has to destroy the barrel to temive. But I'd that in writting Logic would say that if you can remove a muzzle device and still be able to use the threads to thread a flash hider on, it is not legal. If you use the NFA Federal standards, it must be permanent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites