Your Thoughts: H&K VP9 vs Walther PPQ

[PD2K 115]

I am definitely undecided on that. Certainly I have old eyes, and certainly the most important time to use it at night, I likely won't be stopping to charge it, so not sure it really matters. Someone recommended having a laser mounted as a deterrent in self defense, any thoughts?

 

Joy I recommend the LE model. Bhunted is correct that the LE gives you a better "bang for the buck" in getting night sights and extra magazine. It's an extra $100 for ~$225 worth of upgrades.

[WKnight2 0]

I'm leaning towards a VPN LE myself. Waiting to try out a PPQ before I make the final decision. The regular VPN I shot fit my hand well and was extremely accurate for me.

[boo 6]

Shot my PPQ for the first time in several months yesterday. Consciously maintained a firm grip so no double taps. But it turns out I've developed some (bad?) habits that make the PPQ less of a suitable fit. I mostly shoot with a P229, and I've been taught to "stage" the single action trigger by taking out the slack, confirming aim, and then fully pulling the trigger. But with the really short trigger on the PPQ, my muscle memory of taking up the slack on my P229 is enough to pull the PPQ trigger to break. At the risk of stating the obvious and reiterating a basic rule of gun safety, you really have to be careful about having your finger on the PPQ trigger until you're ready to shoot.

[45Doll 5,880]

I had the opportunity Wednesday to at least dry fire a PPQ M1. Those who rave about the PPQ trigger weren't exaggerating. At least as far as my trigger finger is concerned.

[acaixguard 37]

Before jumping on the LE model, be sure you are going to be satisfied with the sights. I know that it seems like a great value for another $100, but not if you are going to change out the sights. Many people, myself included, loathe 3 dot night sights. You would be better off just buying a 3rd magazine, and then put the remaining towards a set of sights you will actually use long term.

[lunker 274]

Before jumping on the LE model, be sure you are going to be satisfied with the sights. I know that it seems like a great value for another $100, but not if you are going to change out the sights. Many people, myself included, loathe 3 dot night sights. You would be better off just buying a 3rd magazine, and then put the remaining towards a set of sights you will actually use long term.

What type night sights do you prefer? And why?

[acaixguard 37]

What type night sights do you prefer? And why?

 

I like an all black serrated, or non-glare rear with a U notch that is wider than the front post. I find any sort of dot on my rear to be a distraction. So much so that on my Springfield 1911, which came with Novak 3 dot tritiums, I took a Sharpie to the 2 rear dots. I may end up changing the rear someday because I'm not crazy about the sight picture, but this will do for now. As a plus, I like the rear to have some sort of surface to allow one handed charging of the slide.

 

As for the front sight, I prefer it to be serrated at .125" width max. I used to like having a tritium dot up front, but I am starting to move away from that, and these days, I love having a red fiber optic dot. I also like to have a little bit of height with the front sight versus the height on my OEM sights. For it, it is easier to find when indexing to target, as well as track during recoil.

 

My favorite sights so far are the 10-8 .140" U-notch rear, paired with their .115" red fiber optic front. I may give the Wilson Combat Vickers set (with red FO front) a shot on my G19, though I am unsure how much I will like the recessed U notch rear. Can't hurt to try it though.

[lunker 274]

I like an all black serrated, or non-glare rear with a U notch that is wider than the front post. I find any sort of dot on my rear to be a distraction. So much so that on my Springfield 1911, which came with Novak 3 dot tritiums, I took a Sharpie to the 2 rear dots. I may end up changing the rear someday because I'm not crazy about the sight picture, but this will do for now. As a plus, I like the rear to have some sort of surface to allow one handed charging of the slide.

 

As for the front sight, I prefer it to be serrated at .125" width max. I used to like having a tritium dot up front, but I am starting to move away from that, and these days, I love having a red fiber optic dot. I also like to have a little bit of height with the front sight versus the height on my OEM sights. For it, it is easier to find when indexing to target, as well as track during recoil.

 

My favorite sights so far are the 10-8 .140" U-notch rear, paired with their .115" red fiber optic front. I may give the Wilson Combat Vickers set (with red FO front) a shot on my G19, though I am unsure how much I will like the recessed U notch rear. Can't hurt to try it though.

 

 

OK, thanks. I was wondering if there was a a better low light setup. While the three dot is not my favorite because it draws your eye to the dot instead of the top of the sight, I do like it for a nightstand gun. 

[DeerSlayer 241]

I just got mine 3 mags and tridium sights. Can't wait to shoot it. I have to put a different back strap on, the medium one is too much.

[bhunted 887]

Clean it good and rack the crap out of it till you hit the range. Give ya a head start on breaking it in a bit.

 

 

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[DeerSlayer 241]

Clean it good and rack the crap out of it till you hit the range. Give ya a head start on breaking it in a bit.Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

It has a ton of oil on it. The whole slide is wet right out of the box. I really need to wipe it down.

[bhunted 887]

It has a ton of oil on it. The whole slide is wet right out of the box. I really need to wipe it down.

Not just wipe it down. Do a thorough inside and out.. Then lube as per manual. They don't need a lot of oil. In fact, before reassembly, put a light coat of gun grease on metal contact points, trigger arm, etc. then rack the hell out of it, work the trigger, then clean again. This really speeds up the break in process. By time I got mine to the range, it was as smooth as silk.

 

 

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[DeerSlayer 241]

Not just wipe it down. Do a thorough inside and out.. Then lube as per manual. They don't need a lot of oil. In fact, before reassembly, put a light coat of gun grease on metal contact points, trigger arm, etc. then rack the hell out of it, work the trigger, then clean again. This really speeds up the break in process. By time I got mine to the range, it was as smooth as silk.

 

 

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Will do. Thanks.

[DeerSlayer 241]

Not just wipe it down. Do a thorough inside and out.. Then lube as per manual. They don't need a lot of oil. In fact, before reassembly, put a light coat of gun grease on metal contact points, trigger arm, etc. then rack the hell out of it, work the trigger, then clean again. This really speeds up the break in process. By time I got mine to the range, it was as smooth as silk.

 

 

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Took your advice, gun was smooth as silk today. Thanks again for the suggestion.

That's three mags at 10yds. It's my new favorite. Anyone want to buy a whole pile of Glocks I no longer have a use for them lol. (JK I'm keeping my Glocks but I don't think I'll be shooting them as often)

 

[bhunted 887]

No prob.... That's great! Another HK convert!

 

 

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[Golf battery 1,223]

Yeah since i started using my vp9. Any other striker fire sits in the safe. Im sure its bumped me up a grade in competition. I just got a ppq m1. The mag paddle isnt as large as the vp i have ogam to pick it up. Now 27 days left