M4 to 22 conversion

[raceruss2003 0]

I have a Bushmaster M4 that I absolutley love to shoot. However, as we all know this can get pretty expensive, pretty quickly. I have seen the conversion drop-in kits but was wondering if there are many people that use them. As much as I like shooting my M4, it is a bit of a pain to clean and the 22 ammo always seems so dirty.

 

Is there anyone out there using one of these kits and what are your experiences?

 

Was also thinking about purchasing a 15-22 and would like to know how they are as far as cleaning.

[Wolfy 51]

M&P 15-22 is much easier to clean then an AR. I would go so far as to say it is the easiest semi to clean that I have seen. The other factor is the 5.56 is a .223 projectile so the bore of an AR is .001 to big for the 22LR. So if you purchase a conversion kit it will affect accuracy.

[Shane45 807]

To add to that, if Im not mistaken, the twist is WAY wrong for a .22. I have been told the way to roll is with a dedicated .22 upper. For me though, I get concerned that getting used to the recoil and cadance of a .22 will hurt more than help in live fire.

 

Shane

[lunker 274]

M&P 15-22 is much easier to clean then an AR. I would go so far as to say it is the easiest semi to clean that I have seen. The other factor is the 5.56 is a .223 projectile so the bore of an AR is .001 to big for the 22LR. So if you purchase a conversion kit it will affect accuracy.

 

Wolfy is correct about this. If you have a barrel with a quick twist rate (1:7, 1:8, 1:9), the 22LR round will have too fast a spin to shoot accurately (If you have an older M-16 style barrel or a varmint barrel with 1:12, you are good though). I bought the Spikes Tactical 22LR upper and it was excellent quality and accuracy (As a matter of fact, it's for sale in the Marketplace right now), although this upper costs about $100 more than the S&W MP22 that everyone loves. I like the Spike's because it can fit on any AR upper. I am selling because I figured out I like AKs much better than ARs.

[Old School 611]

M&P 15-22 is much easier to clean then an AR. I would go so far as to say it is the easiest semi to clean that I have seen. The other factor is the 5.56 is a .223 projectile so the bore of an AR is .001 to big for the 22LR. So if you purchase a conversion kit it will affect accuracy.

 

Wolfy is correct about this. If you have a barrel with a quick twist rate (1:7, 1:8, 1:9), the 22LR round will have too fast a spin to shoot accurately (If you have an older M-16 style barrel or a varmint barrel with 1:12, you are good though). I bought the Spikes Tactical 22LR upper and it was excellent quality and accuracy (As a matter of fact, it's for sale in the Marketplace right now), although this upper costs about $100 more than the S&W MP22 that everyone loves. I like the Spike's because it can fit on any AR upper. I am selling because I figured out I like AKs much better than ARs.

 

 

Chris that is a subersive comment and unAmerican...

[lunker 274]

Chris that is a subersive comment and unAmerican...

 

Ha, ha Frank! You can have your poodle shooter.

If I want a short/mid range semi-auto rifle, I have the AK. If I want a mid/long range semi-auto rifle, I'll play with my M1 Garand or (soon-to-be) M1A. The AR is a good compromise between the two, but I like a round with a little more thump.

[Old School 611]

Chris that is a subersive comment and unAmerican...

 

Ha, ha Frank! You can have your poodle shooter.

If I want a short/mid range semi-auto rifle, I have the AK. If I want a mid/long range semi-auto rifle, I'll play with my M1 Garand or (soon-to-be) M1A. The AR is a good compromise between the two, but I like a round with a little more thump.

 

Chris- I can't disagree with you there (M1 rifle or M1A). Nothing like 30 cal. to reach out and touch some one...

[Wolfy 51]

Back on topic. The Spikes tactical 22lr upper Chris is selling is top quality. Chris is a respectable individual to deal with. Most of his guns are like new it's because he has a short attention span.

[lunker 274]

Back on topic. The Spikes tactical 22lr upper Chris is selling is top quality. Chris is a respectable individual to deal with. Most of his guns are like new it's because he has a short attention span.

 

Now that's an understatement.

[Krdshrk 3,878]

M&P 15-22 is much easier to clean then an AR. I would go so far as to say it is the easiest semi to clean that I have seen. The other factor is the 5.56 is a .223 projectile so the bore of an AR is .001 to big for the 22LR. So if you purchase a conversion kit it will affect accuracy.

 

Wolfy is correct about this. If you have a barrel with a quick twist rate (1:7, 1:8, 1:9), the 22LR round will have too fast a spin to shoot accurately (If you have an older M-16 style barrel or a varmint barrel with 1:12, you are good though). I bought the Spikes Tactical 22LR upper and it was excellent quality and accuracy (As a matter of fact, it's for sale in the Marketplace right now), although this upper costs about $100 more than the S&W MP22 that everyone loves. I like the Spike's because it can fit on any AR upper. I am selling because I figured out I like AKs much better than ARs.

 

Good info, thanks.

[coldsolderjoint 84]

Back on topic. The Spikes tactical 22lr upper Chris is selling is top quality. Chris is a respectable individual to deal with. Most of his guns are like new it's because he has a short attention span.

 

+1 I dont have anything left to trade him for it :-P I've shot it and it is a really nice gun.

[Wolfy 51]

Ed YOU don't have anything to trade?? Think I just saw a flying monkey.

[raceruss2003 0]

Thanks for the replies everyone. After the barrel size/accuracy statement I am thinking a 15-22 might be in order. Plus, it is always nice to have another gun in the closet...

[Krdshrk 3,878]

mikeyboyeee is selling his.

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[Shane45 807]

Yeah but that AK round falls flat on its face at around 300! Come back to the dark side and get a 6.5 G upper!

[lunker 274]

Yeah but that AK round falls flat on its face at around 300! Come back to the dark side and get a 6.5 G upper!

 

That's when I break out the Garand or M14.

[ChrisJM981 924]

I was shooting the cmmg stainless .22 conversion bolt today. I put 100 rounds through it with no problems. I was shooting at 50 yards without glass and my groups were a little sloppy. My gf's were better. For a red dot with a 1:9 twist barrel no too bad. I already sank money into an Eotech for the AR so I figured I'd get the drop in. I should have gone with a 10/22 and just put an inexpensive scope on it.

[dave545 15]

i just bought a mp15-22 and i love it, i already shot over 1000 rounds through it since i bought it a week ago