please tell me 37mm flare launchers are illegal...

[Pew Pew Plates 358]

...because i really want one!

http://www.ftfindustries.com/mm5/mercha ... _Code=37MM

 

I assume there ok?

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interested in answer.. I don't know WTF I would do with that.. but it has the appeal of being ridiculous! lol

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I have no clue what I'de do with it either. But its DAMN COOL!

[sirsloop 1]

I remember seeing another website that was selling 37 & 40mm grenade launchers. They had some ATF document that required you to be purchasing for some law enforcement entity. IDK if that's the case here tho...

 

Ok, so you have your 37mm grenade launcher. Where are you going to shoot it?

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Reloading is really easy for them. You can make black powder blanks or firework type ariels (legally) and you can use film canisters with flour and lob them at 100 yards with a teaspoon of BP *EDIT: nvm on the film cannister, that would be a DD then* :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

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Where are you going to shoot it?

 

I thought I would just bring it the Atlantic County Range.. LOL :mrgreen:

[efl15 0]

get this for the M203 look

http://www.spikestactical.com/z/index.p ... r4v43s3f72

 

These flare launchers should be legal from what ive seen on google... :?:

[sirsloop 1]

Isn't anything over .50cal that's not a shotgun shooting a projectile a Destructive Device?

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No. theres a full explanation on 37mm.com about the legalities of them. As long as theres no anti personel rounds with them they are legal. I'de link you but im at work and its blocked

[sirsloop 1]

http://37mm.com/node/15

 

Yeah, so don't make stuff that blows up and its just a flare gun

[coldsolderjoint 84]

http://www.centerfiresystems.com/flare-rv85.aspx

[KpdPipes 388]

I remember seeing another website that was selling 37 & 40mm grenade launchers. They had some ATF document that required you to be purchasing for some law enforcement entity. IDK if that's the case here tho...

 

Ok, so you have your 37mm grenade launcher. Where are you going to shoot it?

Grenade Launchers and Flare guns are two COMPLETAELY DIFFERENT animals. Grenade launchers have Rifled Barrels, Flare Launchers do Not. Grneade Launchers are NFA items (Destructive Device), and are regulated through ATF (And are probibited specifically by NJ law)

 

The Cobray/Spikes/ect 37mm "Flare Launchers" are completely Legal to own... HOWEVER if you fire ANYTHING through it (Or possess) Anything other than Signalling Rounds (ie. Flare or Smoke) You now have in your possession a "Destructive Device", which IS prohibited under NJ law, and the NFA. So, all of those "Cool" rounds out there, Tear gas, Baton, Rubber Buck, and antyhign else including "Bird Bombs" cannot be shot from the thing.

[Drew 4]

Did that guy who got arrested near 3 bridges have one of those? He was linked with al-qaeda in some round about way. I will try and dig up the article.

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he did. Infact, if I remember correctly it was deemed legal after the fact

[Drew 4]

I found on of the articles:

 

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/0 ... ad_we.html

 

They called it a grenade launcher, but I think I read that it was in fact a flare launcher.

 

Edit most recent article I see:

 

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/0 ... ed_ro.html

[sirsloop 1]

lol... certainly on the edge of legality here. Legal if you shoot flares/smoke, illegal if you shoot something else. Certainly has the potential to cause some brush fires which could bring on more liability. If you are shooting this thing I can see getting arrested. How many local cops have seen someone shooting a very military grenade launcher looking "flare gun". If you are smart you will have all of the documents showing legality in the case so if you ever get hassled you don't end up spending a night in jail.

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Simple fact is..a 37mm launcher on your rifle is useless...all it is for is for posers who want to play "Army", or are too cheap to pay the money for an ACTUAL 203...which considering the cost of MG's now are actually not all that expensive (And yes i know It's NJ, Yadda yadda..i'm talking in general here). Yes it's cool-looking, and a Tacticool, accessory. If you want a 37mm, then buy the Spike's Stand-alone, and shoot your flares, smoke, or marking projos all day long, but IMO, mount it on your ar or AK, and you're just stamping "TOOL" across your forehead.

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Simple fact is..a 37mm launcher on your rifle is useless...all it is for is for posers who want to play "Army", or are too cheap to pay the money for an ACTUAL 203...which considering the cost of MG's now are actually not all that expensive (And yes i know It's NJ, Yadda yadda..i'm talking in general here). Yes it's cool-looking, and a Tacticool, accessory. If you want a 37mm, then buy the Spike's Stand-alone, and shoot your flares, smoke, or marking projos all day long, but IMO, mount it on your ar or AK, and you're just stamping "TOOL" across your forehead.

+1. Ha, its so true. Even with that said, flares are so '90s . Its all about IR and chem lights these days.

[sirsloop 1]

IDK... a AR with a flare launcher potentially could be more useful than an AR without a flare launcher. It depends on its intended use is. If you are walking around Alaska and need both a rifle and a flare launcher then by all means. If you are shooting flares on 4th of july from your AR mounted flare launcher that's a little ridic Than again I like ridic stuff

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I'de get the stand alone that I linked. I'de never mount one on an AR, it would be like strapping a car(m203, usefull) on top of a donkey(AR, useless). ARs suck and I'll never own one!

[coldsolderjoint 84]

 

The woes of the forum getting bigger... :-D

[sirsloop 1]

lol... as far as non-military nj citizens are concerned M203's are useless and AR's are at least usable.

[Krdshrk 3,877]

A lot of movies use 37mm flare launchers as stand-ins for M203's.

[KpdPipes 388]

A lot of movies use 37mm flare launchers as stand-ins for M203's.

 

THAT at least makes sense..less NFA paperwork for the Property maters to deal with.

[ChrisJM981 924]

Simple fact is..a 37mm launcher on your rifle is useless...all it is for is for posers who want to play "Army", or are too cheap to pay the money for an ACTUAL 203...which considering the cost of MG's now are actually not all that expensive (And yes i know It's NJ, Yadda yadda..i'm talking in general here). Yes it's cool-looking, and a Tacticool, accessory. If you want a 37mm, then buy the Spike's Stand-alone, and shoot your flares, smoke, or marking projos all day long, but IMO, mount it on your ar or AK, and you're just stamping "TOOL" across your forehead.

 

I don't know... A smoke grenade launcher would be useful if I need to retreat from a horde of zombies.

[sirsloop 1]

I wouldn't want to get shot with a 37mm flare gun.