Alex V 99 Posted May 5, 2014 What happened? They refused to hear it? Yup, Stick a fork in it. Done Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fawkesguy 57 Posted May 5, 2014 Yup, Stick a fork in it. Done You're right. It really is the end of the line. Today, right now, it is the best it will EVER be in NJ for 2A rights. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kwadz 11 Posted May 5, 2014 You're right. It really is the end of the line. Today, right now, it is the best it will EVER be in NJ for 2A rights. What about arguments from other states? What if CA files an appeal based on the 7th's ruling and SCOTUS takes it up then upholds the 7th's ruling with strict wording calling out the justifiable need as an illegal requirement? Will that not push that ruling down onto NJ and the rest of the 3rd? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fawkesguy 57 Posted May 5, 2014 What about arguments from other states? What if CA files an appeal based on the 7th's ruling and SCOTUS takes it up then upholds the 7th's ruling with strict wording calling out the justifiable need as an illegal requirement? Will that not push that ruling down onto NJ and the rest of the 3rd? That's a big "what if". They had a clear split and a case sitting in front of them. It's over. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan_j 0 Posted May 5, 2014 This case is over but they can take the CA case and rule on it if it is petitioned. I used to not think this but I really think that SCOTUS is afraid to take a case because guns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_G 51 Posted May 5, 2014 This case is over but they can take the CA case and rule on it if it is petitioned. I used to not think this but I really think that SCOTUS is afraid to take a case because guns That's a big if on the 9th circuit case. Unfortunately, I think they were more worried about how they are perceived than about constitutional rights. The entire system is screwed up. This is not the country our forefathers founded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,781 Posted May 5, 2014 " “It’s disappointing,” Gura said, “but courts are still uncomfortable with the concept of Second Amendment rights...” http://www.examiner.com/article/scotus-declines-to-take-drake-challenge-to-new-jersey-ccw-law Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
maintenanceguy 510 Posted May 5, 2014 Gura is right. This has nothing to do with anything other than SCOTUS knowing what the constitution means but wishing it meant something else. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted May 5, 2014 So in a way, we lose because the San Diego sheriff didn't appeal. Especially if they don't let Harris step in Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oneshot 45 Posted May 5, 2014 fuck this state ,fuck obama and all the other scumbag politicians. Every one of them should be tried for treason and hung if found guilty. I will not comply ,not now, not ever.. SCOTUS can suck my left nut Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NYMetsFan86 9 Posted May 5, 2014 fuck this state ,fuck obama and all the other scumbag politicians. Every one of them should be tried for treason and hung if found guilty. I will not comply ,not now, not ever.. SCOTUS can suck my left nut yes.....yes indeed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted May 6, 2014 fuck this state ,fuck obama and all the other scumbag politicians. Every one of them should be tried for treason and hung if found guilty. I will not comply ,not now, not ever.. SCOTUS can suck my left nut +1000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n4p226r 105 Posted May 6, 2014 fuck this state ,fuck obama and all the other scumbag politicians. Every one of them should be tried for treason and hung if found guilty. I will not comply ,not now, not ever.. SCOTUS can suck my left nut So you are saying you plan to carry now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan_j 0 Posted May 6, 2014 So you are saying you plan to carry now? How about we all plan to apply for that "shall issue" carry permit that the AG says we can get? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEAHS 11 Posted May 6, 2014 How about we all plan to apply for that "shall issue" carry permit that the AG says we can get? Never work here in NJ. To many of our fellow firearms owners that are afraid of BIG BAD NJ, and having that DENIAL on their record. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryan_j 0 Posted May 6, 2014 Never work here in NJ. To many of our fellow firearms owners that are afraid of BIG BAD NJ, and having that DENIAL on their record. Oh yes I forgot that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoeInOcean 0 Posted May 6, 2014 What about arguments from other states? What if CA files an appeal based on the 7th's ruling and SCOTUS takes it up then upholds the 7th's ruling with strict wording calling out the justifiable need as an illegal requirement? Will that not push that ruling down onto NJ and the rest of the 3rd? My guess is this is the 'green light' to the 9th Circuit for an en-banc reversal, erasing the circuit split and ensuring a denied cert. for Perutta at the SCOTUS. It will be spun as a victory for local control and states-rights, without ever needing to set precedent in front of the Supreme Court, and ensuring that the 2 Americas remain seperate-but-equal. The word I took from the lack of being granted cert. was, "This is America.. if you don't like the rule where you are, vote with your feet." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fawkesguy 57 Posted May 6, 2014 fuck this state ,fuck obama and all the other scumbag politicians. Every one of them should be tried for treason and hung if found guilty. I will not comply ,not now, not ever.. SCOTUS can suck my left nut Better watch out - that sort of talk could get you branded as mentally ill, which of course could mean you wouldn't be allowed to own firearms.... http://themindunleashed.org/2013/11/nonconformity-and-freethinking-now.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites