Preferred 9mm Home Defense Ammunition in New Jersey

[alowerlevel 77]

The heavier LE offerings, I imagine, will still be difficult to find. Keep checking various on-line sources as your best bet.

 

Where do forum readers buy Federal EFMJ, I can't seem to find online retailers that have them in stock.

 

TheWombat

 

http://www.policehq.com/ProductList.aspx?CategoryName=FEDERAL-AMMO&FilterValues=27b647bf-abd4-482b-8a19-af9a713df028

 

Edit : Damn I just noticed that only the 40's are in stock and your talking about 9's.

[njluger 5]

I voted "Other", Remington Golden Sabers 124gr +P. I picked a bunch up since they are being rebranded as Remington's Home Defense brand (same round, different box). You can find them for decent prices too (less than $1 a round which is good for SD ammo).

[PK90 3,570]

I have the 9mm EFMJs in stock.

[bulpup 98]

 

Federal has decided on a new marketing technique and has renamed the EFMJ light offering as Federal Guard Dog ammunition. I believe there are ads for it in the current gun rags. So I expect that the Guard Dog branded ammo will become easier to find as they crank-up production and the new packaging Adios,

 

 

Hmm. Well I guess that explains why no one voted for Federal Guard Dog in the poll. Good info Bob

[Krdshrk 3,877]

I've bought mine from Streichers, but since PK90 has 'em - buy from him

[Anselmo 87]

 

 

Federal has decided on a new marketing technique and has renamed the EFMJ light offering as Federal Guard Dog ammunition. I believe there are ads for it in the current gun rags. So I expect that the Guard Dog branded ammo will become easier to find as they crank-up production and the new packaging (they may have changed the color of the polymer plug behind the jacket also - think I saw a photo of an expanded guard dog round and the polymer was blue - the old EFMJ stuff was/is red. Maybe blue to differentiate from Hornady CD?).

 

I saw TV commercial for the Guard Dog ammo. Pretty slick commercial.

[njpilot 671]

NJ is all over the place when it comes to this. I found out here that Retired Jersey cops carry Federal EFMJ. The exact reasons, or even a fully vetted representative sample, is not verified. However, why would they do that? Has to be something.

 

 

Yes, there is something. Retired police can't carry hollow points in NJ.

[PK90 3,570]

Yes, there is something. Retired police can't carry hollow points in NJ.

 

Although Federal Law now says they can, via S1132 that Obama signed into law.

[njpilot 671]

Although Federal Law now says they can, via S1132 that Obama signed into law.

 

Cool. Didn't know that.

 

But are retired LE carrying hollow points with this crazy AG?

[Butcherboy78 8]

For you guys using the Federal EFMJ or Guard Dog ammo, you might want to check out this video...

 

 

I'll be sticking with my 115 gr Federal +p+ hi-shoks

[Pizza Bob 1,488]

As I stated previously, I'm not a fan of giving up bullet mass in favor of velocity. In the EFMJ ammo I prefer the 124 gr +P.

 

Also not a big fan of +P+ ammo. You're buying a "pig-in-a-poke". There are no SAAMI specs for +P+ ammo. While makers like H&K say that it can be used in their firearms, if you look at the verbiage used in their owners manuals, it says something like "approved" +P+.

 

+P+ loads are generally contract loaded for specific agencies and are tailored for the issue weapons of that agency, with the firearms manufacturer's blessing. In the secondary market - which would largely be production overruns, you really don't know what the specs are - and even from a reputable manufacturer like Federal, which may publish the specs on the box, you don't know if they are approved for your firearm.

 

I have always likened +P+ ammo to a blivet - that is 10 lbs of sh*t in a five lb bag. If you need more firepower/higher velocity, buy a different caliber.

 

Likewise, with regard to the amateur ballistician on You Tube, I'll remember his tests if I'm ever attacked by some jeans-wearing ballistic geltain. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to get hit with a non-expanding .22 LR bullet, let alone something that expands to over half an inch and can penetrate 8" or 9". Lower velocity, lighter weight means follow-ups are quicker too. Lots of variables when it comes to choosing HD/SD ammo. I originally purchased the EFMJ because I live in NJ (kinda dumb in retrospect), but now pretty much limit new purchases of HD/SD ammo to Speer Gold Dots.

 

All of the above is JMHO

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

[bulpup 98]

For you guys using the Federal EFMJ or Guard Dog ammo, you might want to check out this video...

 

 

I'll be sticking with my 115 gr Federal +p+ hi-shoks

 

 

Interesting video. My first thought was that in the gel it appeared the expanded bullet turned sideways on "frisbee'd."

 

I have never really thought that the ripping action on certani hollow points had anything to do with stopping power, just the bleed out. If I cared that much about making the dude die after a while I would just dip it in poison. no need to rip him up. But perhaps the 'petals' have a stabilizing ability, keeping the fat face of it forward as it penetrates.

 

Very intersesting.