RAL1979 9 Posted November 23, 2011 So I went to Bullet Hole to see what they had for AK mags, and I was told they are illegal and could not be sold or ordered in NJ. Now I know this can't be true but has anyone else been told this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted November 23, 2011 The only magazines illegal in NJ are magazines capable of continuously feeding more than 15 rounds into a semi automatic rifle. A 15 round or less AK magazine, wether it be single or double stack, is %100 beyond a doubt legal. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted November 23, 2011 Sounds like the NJSP got to them like they got to Cheyenne Mountain. We are all doomed. One by one, divide and concur. The current establishment is winning. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAL1979 9 Posted November 23, 2011 I'm well aware but I guess they aren't. Didn't have time to argue was on my way to work Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrP 81 Posted November 23, 2011 Perhaps they were trying to cover their asses legally because you used the term "AK Mags". I'm not sure what the proper NJPC term is... "NJ Compliant AK Variant Mag"? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted November 23, 2011 Perhaps they were trying to cover their asses legally because you used the term "AK Mags". I'm not sure what the proper NJPC term is... "NJ Compliant AK Variant Mag"? You can own AK mags, bayonets, and other parts... just not the gun itself. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted November 23, 2011 You can own AK mags, bayonets, and other parts... just not the gun itself. You can own an AK, even if it was stamped "Avtomat Kalashnikov type" so long as it doesnt have 2 or more features. If it doesnt have 2 or more features it is not substantially identical to an "Avtomat Kalashnikov type" even if thats what it says, but I digress :thsmiley_deadhorse: 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted November 23, 2011 You can own an AK, even if it was stamped "Avtomat Kalashnikov type" so long as it doesnt have 2 or more features. If it doesnt have 2 or more features it is not substantially identical to an "Avtomat Kalashnikov type" even if thats what it says, but I digress :thsmiley_deadhorse: Very true, but ....... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
YWHIC 18 Posted November 23, 2011 DKmag has/had 10 round (double stack) AK mags for like $12 and will ship to NJ.. I ordered some KVAR 10 AK round mags.. (they are not cheap) You can always ship them to someone in PA and neuter them to 15 from say 20 round Hungarian Tanker types.. (thats what I did).. there not as noticable at the range either as 30's.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAL1979 9 Posted November 23, 2011 I have some 15/30s I just wanted some 10 rounders to bring to NY for the weekend..no big deal Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NicePants 58 Posted November 23, 2011 lol bullethole 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted November 23, 2011 We talked about this before, the NJ AG is little by little scaring the shiznit out of NJ dealers "compelling" them to not deal with anything that remotely looks , smells, or feels AK-ish. Regardless of the statutes and NJAC, these folks don't have the financial or intestinal fortitude to put up a legal fight when the stakes are bankruptcy and prison time versus making a few bucks in sales. I don't blame them. Once the NJ guberment sees they can bully dealers into submission regarding the sales of guns that have an AK style, who's to stop them from going beyond that. Looks like a run at revoking the NJAC AWB evil feature list guidelines, and going back to the "unconstitutionally vague" statutes list being the legal test giving NJ prosecutors a free for all in going after pretty much any EBR type gun out there. Afterall, the original NJ AWB is still the law of the land. The NJAC are just guidelines and can be stricken out at any time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted November 23, 2011 We talked about this before, the NJ AG is little by little scaring the shiznit out of NJ dealers "compelling" them to not deal with anything that remotely looks , smells, or feels AK-ish. Regardless of the statutes and NJAC, these folks don't have the financial or intestinal fortitude to put up a legal fight when the stakes are bankruptcy and prison time versus making a few bucks in sales. I don't blame them. Once the NJ guberment sees they can bully dealers into submission regarding the sales of guns that have an AK style, who's to stop them from going beyond that. Looks like a run at revoking the NJAC AWB evil feature list guidelines, and going back to the "unconstitutionally vague" statutes list being the legal test giving NJ prosecutors a free for all in going after pretty much any EBR type gun out there. Afterall, the original NJ AWB is still the law of the land. The NJAC are just guidelines and can be stricken out at any time. the whole thing is silly.. because of the following.. EVEN IF an "ak47" is banned.. the gun being banned does NOT mean magazines for that gun are illegal.. so even if you assume an AK47 is illegal.. there is NOTHING to make 15 round AK47 magazines illegal.. end of story.. and ANY shop telling you that is just spewing misinformation and should be avoided.. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted November 23, 2011 So I went to Bullet Hole to see what they had for AK mags, and I was told they are illegal and could not be sold or ordered in NJ. Now I know this can't be true but has anyone else been told this? Consider the source. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RAL1979 9 Posted November 23, 2011 Consider the source. I assume by "the source" you are referring to Bullet Hole... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted November 24, 2011 I have some 15/30s I just wanted some 10 rounders to bring to NY for the weekend..no big deal If your 15/30s were made before Sept. of 1994 they would be legal in NY at any round capacity. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted November 24, 2011 We talked about this before, the NJ AG is little by little scaring the shiznit out of NJ dealers "compelling" them to not deal with anything that remotely looks , smells, or feels AK-ish. Regardless of the statutes and NJAC, these folks don't have the financial or intestinal fortitude to put up a legal fight when the stakes are bankruptcy and prison time versus making a few bucks in sales. I don't blame them. Once the NJ guberment sees they can bully dealers into submission regarding the sales of guns that have an AK style, who's to stop them from going beyond that. Looks like a run at revoking the NJAC AWB evil feature list guidelines, and going back to the "unconstitutionally vague" statutes list being the legal test giving NJ prosecutors a free for all in going after pretty much any EBR type gun out there. Afterall, the original NJ AWB is still the law of the land. The NJAC are just guidelines and can be stricken out at any time. They ran Sarco out of NJ, and he was fighting them the whole way. It wasn't for lack of money either, it's just because he was in NJ. Had those events happened in another state, there wouldn't have been an issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites