cgdawg27 0 Posted June 30, 2012 Hi everyone i was wondering what muzzle devices i can buy that will actually work for faster follow up shots and was wondering about legalities. Im looking at the advanced armament blackout muzzle break as an example...legal?? http://www.tactical-...t-muzzle-brake/ How do we know what is considered a flash hider?? based on the name?? Is there a list somewhere or do i have to contact each manufacturer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted June 30, 2012 Any muzzle device that does not suppress a flash is legal. That being said, I would go with what a manufacturer advertises as being a brake or compensator. If they advertise it as a flash hider, I would stay away from it. As far as which works the best, I will leave that for others who actually shoot to post their results. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pizza Bob 1,488 Posted June 30, 2012 The link goes to a pretty typical brake. What are you installing it on? Needs to be pinned & welded if on an EBR. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azmaveth 1 Posted July 1, 2012 Hi everyone i was wondering what muzzle devices i can buy that will actually work for faster follow up shots and was wondering about legalities. Im looking at the advanced armament blackout muzzle break as an example...legal?? http://www.tactical-...t-muzzle-brake/ How do we know what is considered a flash hider?? based on the name?? Is there a list somewhere or do i have to contact each manufacturer? This one is not jersey legal. It has threads on it to accept a sound suppressor. Basically you need to find a muzzle brake that does not have threads. Something like a Battle Comp, Spike's Dynacomp, Troy Medieval/Claymore, PWS FSC556, Rainier Arms XTC... There are others, but I can't think of them right now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted July 1, 2012 The law says: A flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor Once a muzzle device is attached, i.e. pinned and welded, it becomes part of the barrel. IMO, it can be threaded if no FLASH suppressor can be attached. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted July 1, 2012 This one is not jersey legal. It has threads on it to accept a sound suppressor. Basically you need to find a muzzle brake that does not have threads. Something like a Battle Comp, Spike's Dynacomp, Troy Medieval/Claymore, PWS FSC556, Rainier Arms XTC... There are others, but I can't think of them right now. Smith comp, mini y comp, y comp, miculek comp, Benny Cooley comp, Jo tank brake, nordict tactical comp, Nordic corvette comp, Nordic shark comp, hammerhead comp, Titan comp, tti recoil eliminator, sure fire has at least three flavors of their revision of the f-2 comp, the f-2 comp, talon comp, firebird comp, levang linear comp, etc. there are probably 50 or 60 that make the cut. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twpbaseball10 0 Posted July 1, 2012 yanke hill phantom brake is good I believe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cgdawg27 0 Posted July 1, 2012 Thanx for the advice this is goin on a bushmaster xm15...i have a y comp on there now and its ok easily the loudest rifle i have...anyone finding any one comp better then the others? How about comps that dont blast out your shooting partner next to you...any suggestions for something that helps with control and puts the blast forward? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
raz-0 1,259 Posted July 1, 2012 In general, thing that put the blast forward aren't that effective. The Nordic comps aren't brutal and work ok. The JP tank brake is one of if not the most effective, but it is huge and pretty loud. Sound wise, most anything is an improvement on the mini y comp. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
azmaveth 1 Posted July 2, 2012 Thanx for the advice this is goin on a bushmaster xm15...i have a y comp on there now and its ok easily the loudest rifle i have...anyone finding any one comp better then the others? How about comps that dont blast out your shooting partner next to you...any suggestions for something that helps with control and puts the blast forward? I believe the Troy Claymore puts the blast forward. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boresnake 0 Posted February 8, 2013 I have a question for those in the know. Is it possible to purchase a 12.75 upper and fit it with a 3.25 muzzle break or flash suppressor therefore making it the legal 16 inches? Could this be screwed on or would it have to be welded on. I understand that the break or suppressor can't be threaded itself, but could one be legal by just screwing a 3.25 into the barrel? Thanks guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Onthejob13 0 Posted February 8, 2013 The law says: Once a muzzle device is attached, i.e. pinned and welded, it becomes part of the barrel. IMO, it can be threaded if no FLASH suppressor can be attached. Agreed here Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intercooler 41 Posted February 9, 2013 bravo company comps for me Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RUTGERS95 890 Posted February 9, 2013 Pws is best combo and controls muzzle rise Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted February 9, 2013 I have a question for those in the know. Is it possible to purchase a 12.75 upper and fit it with a 3.25 muzzle break or flash suppressor therefore making it the legal 16 inches? Could this be screwed on or would it have to be welded on. I understand that the break or suppressor can't be threaded itself, but could one be legal by just screwing a 3.25 into the barrel? Thanks guys. federal law requires you to get to 16inches or register as a short barrel rifle.. short barrel rifles are not permitted in NJ.. a sub 16in barrel with a muzzle device is still sub 16inches.. the only way it gets longer than 16 is if the muzzle device becomes a permanent part of the barrel.. Permanent methods ofattachment include full-fusion gas or electric steel-seam welding, high-temperature (1100°F) silver soldering, or blind pinning with the pin head welded over. so to answer your question.. it will need to be permanent in NJ.. and it will need to be a brake and NOT a flash hider.. even if it is a 16in barrel if it is threaded.. you will need a brake that is permanently attached to not count as an evil feature.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SgtToadette 59 Posted February 11, 2013 Pws is best combo and controls muzzle rise Not to mention that they provide documentation (.pdf warning) from the ATF that the device is indeed not a flash hider. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DirtyDigz 1,812 Posted February 11, 2013 Thanx for the advice this is goin on a bushmaster xm15...i have a y comp on there now and its ok easily the loudest rifle i have...anyone finding any one comp better then the others? How about comps that dont blast out your shooting partner next to you...any suggestions for something that helps with control and puts the blast forward? Battlecomps (and Spike Tactical's version, the dynacomp) are supposedly less punishing for muzzle blast than other muzzle brakes/compensators. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcm308 0 Posted February 12, 2013 The law says: Once a muzzle device is attached, i.e. pinned and welded, it becomes part of the barrel. IMO, it can be threaded if no FLASH suppressor can be attached. Agreed here So .. the Ops Inc brake that has threads on the outside with a thread protector is legal if the brake itself is pinned? Thought the whole shebang had to be pinned ? Molon Labe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Onthejob13 0 Posted February 12, 2013 So .. the Ops Inc brake that has threads on the outside with a thread protector is legal if the brake itself is pinned? Molon Labe Cant be able to access threads. He can't use the brake he originally posted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcm308 0 Posted February 12, 2013 Cant be able to access threads. He can't use the brake he originally posted But a FLASH suppressor can't fit the threads... Not arguing.. just critiquing the words.. Molon Labe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Onthejob13 0 Posted February 12, 2013 But a FLASH suppressor can't fit the threads... Not arguing.. just critiquing the words.. Molon Labe I didnt make the law. I just know I wouldn't want to be the one found with it in my possession. No matter how its worded. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcm308 0 Posted February 12, 2013 Yea, I feel the same way. Just what PK90 said made me think. Molon Labe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted February 12, 2013 But a FLASH suppressor can't fit the threads... Not arguing.. just critiquing the words.. Molon Labe I would not rest my freedom on that argument.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites