.22 upper on my RRA

[BlueLineFish 615]

Instead of buying a dedicated 22 ar i want to just get a 22lr upper. Not sure what is needed. Do i just need to buy a complete upper or are there other parts needed?

[FLHX 1]

Take a look at the CMMG website they have all you need. If you get the full blown upper your good to go then just get the mags. Also check out Core15 they have some pretty nice .22 uppers.

[mipafox 438]

Hell yeah.

 

I have a Spikes but they stopped making them. Mine kicks ass.

 

The upper and mags are all you need. If you put it on one of your fancy Police M16s then you should add a trip and an anti-bounce weight

[mipafox 438]

I should add that many people need to use hot ammo (or fire suppressed with any ammo) to get some of the conversions (which dedicated uppers are) to work. So it is possible that the conversion/dedicated upper may limit your ammo selection (unsurpressed) while the purpose-built .22s that look like ARs tend to shoot a wider range of ammo without issue.

 

It's not always like that, but it is a common difference.

[Barms 98]

there are sooooooo many youtube videos about the CMMG conversion.. a guy named Plinkster installs his and then runs 6 different brands of ammo at 50 yards to compare the grouping.. great video..

 

[BlueLineFish 615]

Hell yeah.

 

I have a Spikes but they stopped making them. Mine kicks ass.

 

The upper and mags are all you need. If you put it on one of your fancy Police M16s then you should add a trip and an anti-bounce weight

 

Not allowed to use the police ar's. This will be on my RRA lar-15 tac 2

[mipafox 438]

there are sooooooo many youtube videos about the CMMG conversion.. a guy named Plinkster installs his and then runs 6 different brands of ammo at 50 yards to compare the grouping.. great video..

 

Then he did better than I did with Spikes. My Spikes generally works with one brand, although it seems most people had better luck. Suppressed it shoots anything, including subsonic ammo. It does run well in FA (with the same restrictions) so I lucked out there.

[BlueLineFish 615]

If they are that picky maybe i should just get an mp 15-22

[mipafox 438]

Don't take my experience as ubiquitous, my experience was more disappointing than most (except that I get great FA results). They simply tend to be more picky. You see above somebody who says CMMG works with 6 kinds of ammo.

 

Decide if you want to shoot .22s out of an AR or you want to shoot .22s out of something that looks like an AR. Also consider if you have any mag costs or restrictions because I don't know how that works for you.

 

If you want to shoot it out of an AR then get the upper. If you just want it to look like an AR, mags are not an issue, and demand a 95% chance of being able to use almost all ammo, then I would go with a .22 copy or research further.

[Steve_G 51]

If they are that picky maybe i should just get an mp 15-22

 

Joe. I have the CMMG .22 upper on my Spikes lower. It runs great with the Federal bulk. I haven't had any feeding or ejection issues at all. Still trying to figure out the issue with the safety but, I think that may be related to the JP springs I have in there.

[Steve_G 51]

Try to come out on the 16th. I have the CMMG and Nick has the M&P 15-22. You can get a good side by side comparison.

[BlueLineFish 615]

What i love about the upper is that i get to still use my actual 223 rifle. Just curious about parts. Is anything else needed besides the complete upper

[Steve_G 51]

What i love about the upper is that i get to still use my actual 223 rifle. Just curious about parts. Is anything else needed besides the complete upper

 

That's it. A CMMG complete upper comes with the .22 bolt. All you need is mags. They do need to be jerseyfied though. Shave bayo lug, replace flash hider with brake and pin the brake. Also, with the dedicated .22 upper, you get the actual weight of an AR. The M&P is alot lighter.

[BlueLineFish 615]

Thats what i thought. I like the regular weight idea as well. Dont like light guns. Plis getting them shipped directly to the house saves on NICS and tax. Damn stupid jersey compliant changes.

[Steve_G 51]

If you do decide to go the CMMG upper route, check out Hamlund Tactical. He has some in stock. I had mine within a week after ordering. CMMG quoted me 6 - 8 week wait time. Hamlund is also $30 cheaper.

 

http://hamlundtactical.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=92_169_170

[BlueLineFish 615]

If you do decide to go the CMMG upper route, check out Hamlund Tactical. He has some in stock. I had mine within a week after ordering. CMMG quoted me 6 - 8 week wait time. Hamlund is also $30 cheaper.

 

http://hamlundtactical.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=92_169_170

 

Nice. Thanks for all the great info. Too bad this purchase wont count towards the arms race. No NICS

[Steve_G 51]

 

 

Nice. Thanks for all the great info. Too bad this purchase wont count towards the arms race. No NICS

 

So, just get another lower!!!

[BlueLineFish 615]

Plan on adding a few more to make some large caliber ar's. That is for next year.

[BlueLineFish 615]

After looking at the cmmg conversion I may just do that. And get the evolution mags with the last round bolt hold open. It's a lot cheaper and seems to work just as well.

[when_shtf 4]

That Core15 looks interesting. Does anyone have experience with their .22LR uppers?

[Steve_G 51]

After looking at the cmmg conversion I may just do that. And get the evolution mags with the last round bolt hold open. It's a lot cheaper and seems to work just as well.

 

Definitely an option. You may lose a little in accuracy but, not enough to matter in steel or just plinking. I need to get some of those mags for my bolt hold open to work but, they are a little pricey.

 

I think Henry has the CMMG conversion bolt. Shoot him a pm and see how he likes it.

[BlueLineFish 615]

Go to 44mag.com. they have black dog mags cheap that work

[Steve_G 51]

Go to 44mag.com. they have black dog mags cheap that work

 

Read the fine print. Blackdog mags do not activate the bolt hold open.

 

Blackdog

[BlueLineFish 615]

Oh..my adhd and excitement kicked in

[Steve_G 51]

I just went throughthis whole thing recently and you really have to read the fine print on all this stuff. The mags I ordered from PSA were listed as having the bolt catch follower. Well, they do but, it does not activate the bolt hold open adapter. The only mags that work are the new CMMG mags @ $30 each. There is also another work around that uses M&P 15-22 mags and an adapter that works in the standard AR setup. I think I'll just stick with what I have and not worry about bolt hold open.

[BlueLineFish 615]

Bolt hold open is important to me

[Steve_G 51]

That leaves you with the Evolution mags and the bolt hold open adapter or the M&P 15-22.

[Turbotezza 1]

I have the Tactical solutions AR22 dedicated .22LR upper. All aluminum.

 

http://www.tacticalsol.com/tshome/ar22-22lr-conversion

[JonF 79]

BHO in an AR-22 isn't easy, but there are options. One option, like others mentioned, is the CMMG EVO system, but the activator can be "finicky" to tune. Another option is the bolt catch from AR Catch22.com and then use M&P 15-22 mags (plus his mag spacer) or the new black dog mags designed for the ARCatch22 catch. Unfortunately the new black dog mags are only available in 30 round variants right now so thats out in NJ. M&P mags are available in 10 round, 10/25 and 15/25 (from RRAges.com) and much more abundant and with his simple spacer pad, M&P mags fit an AR mag well snugly (M&P mags are undersize and need this spacer). Although i have an EVO bolt in my dedicated AR-22, i use the ARCatch22 and M&P mags and the system works.

 

http://www.arcatch22.com/

[FLHX 1]

RRages has the limited mags and they also have the uppers in stock.

 

I was under the impression that the CMMG 22 uppers came with the BHO feature. Is that wrong? Do I have to add the arcatch22 to the CMMG upper to get the last round hold open to work?