S2497: Don't need a big clip to shoot a duck

[Cemeterys Gun Blob 165]

This is what we are up against......

 

[BleedingOrange36 0]

[1563621 388]

We have to dump this party in November.

[Clintoon Eastwood 2]

Who's shooting ducks with big clips? This idiot is still trying to bring up sandy hook as a platform... Damn I really hate politicians.

 

5 round clips he says...and m16 he says...

[mag1 0]

I dont have to say it, but 5 rds is ridiculous! Even my wife agrees.

[Old Glock guy 1,127]

Why do politicians all believe that criminals are going to be restrained by mag capacity? If they're not going to obey laws against murder and robbery, why would they be concerned about limiting their ammo capacity? And worse, why can't polticians understand that?

[pjd832 146]

I like his comment about " who needs weapons when we have the police to protect us".... He must have missed the memo ... scotus and more recently in ny state police have no duty/obligation to protect us...

[M1152 713]

I see Mr Tax Man/Jim Florio was in attendance, Florio should have invited his convicted criminal buddies Bryant, Cohn, and Vas.

[Dan 177]

So back in the 90's, NJ passed their AWB, and restricted mags from "high capacity" to 15 rounds, which I'm guessing they figured was "normal capacity". Fast forward to now, and those people are now saying that 15 rounds is "high capacity".

 

Are you kidding me? I feel that 1000 round mags are "high capacity" anything lower is "normal capacity". I can't stand all of this subjective BS using words like "common sense" and "meaningful", to enact sweeping arbitrary bans that directly affect law abiding citizens and all of our rights.

[Old Glock guy 1,127]

So back in the 90's, NJ passed their AWB, and restricted mags from "high capacity" to 15 rounds, which I'm guessing they figured was "normal capacity". Fast forward to now, and those people are now saying that 15 rounds is "high capacity".

 

Are you kidding me? I feel that 1000 round mags are "high capacity" anything lower is "normal capacity". I can't stand all of this subjective BS using words like "common sense" and "meaningful", to enact sweeping arbitrary bans that directly affect law abiding citizens and all of our rights.

 

Politicians/legislators will often say that "high capacity" magazines capable of holding 100 rounds are not needed. So even if we concede that point (not that we should, mind you), how do we go all the way from there to ten or even seven? Why don't they go to 20, and then we in NJ could make a case for increasing our capacity, and hence our ability to defend ourselves, by five rounds.

[RubberBullets 65]

Can someone pin point the scotus case to be used in future arguments?

 

Found it:

 

Castle Rock v. Gonzales, No. 04-278.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html

[Chvl67 0]

Can someone pin point the scotus case to be used in future arguments?

 

Found it:

 

Castle Rock v. Gonzales, No. 04-278.

 

http://en.wikipedia....ock_v._Gonzales

 

http://www.nytimes.c...s/28scotus.html

More:

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-police-have-no-obligation-to-protect-you-yes-really/

 

And this goes back a lot further than Gonzales:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia

 

I can't believe that they're so stupid to continue to use the Law Enforcement protection argument, when SCOTUS has ruled they have no obligation. If the police protect you as a matter of enforcing the law, it's a bonus.

Law Enforcement are the SECOND responders--you are your own first responder. And have every right to protect yourself.

[blizzzarddemon 0]

Im fine with a 5 round "clip" my guns have "magazines" so technically they don't apply to a "clip"ban

 

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[M1152 713]

So back in the 90's, NJ passed their AWB, and restricted mags from "high capacity" to 15 rounds, which I'm guessing they figured was "normal capacity". Fast forward to now, and those people are now saying that 15 rounds is "high capacity".

 

Are you kidding me? I feel that 1000 round mags are "high capacity" anything lower is "normal capacity". I can't stand all of this subjective BS using words like "common sense" and "meaningful", to enact sweeping arbitrary bans that directly affect law abiding citizens and all of our rights.

 

You are absolutely correct. "Common sense gun laws"" and "meaningful gun laws" has been Obama’s mantra for God knows how long and given the recent tragedy in CT he has ramped-it-up. Now all the locals are jumping on the bandwagon singing those phrases. Sure, at face value it sounds great but there is nothing “meaningful” they are purposing that lends itself to "common sense". As far as Florio in the video he could give a shit, he only wants some payback for getting shit-canned by pissed-off Taxpayers and gun owners for his re-election bid. Him and his cronies are a disgrace to NJ, Florio should be banned from ANY public functions solely based on his past associations with Bryant. I'm sorry folks he and Wayne Bryant were too close for Florio not to know Wayne was dirty. It is no wonder why they want to remove guns from the people

[M0ose22 0]

A guy I watch on youtube went to this "million moms march" and put up a video. Hes a libertarian gun owner. Usually has pretty funny videos.

 

[O-gre 7]

Moron!

[71ragtopgoat 23]

Most of these guys are clowns. They do nothing but politic. Thats there job thats all they know how to do.

And in our corner we have ANJRPC(NRA?) which does not even go to an open forum meeting for a public discussion of a gun grabbing bill.

We are doomed !

[gunguy1960 2]

Ducks overhead, I count more than 5, and considering you might miss, I think a twenty round drum for your shotgun would be the minimum. How about we count how many times it takes obama to hit the target and that will be the new minimum, provided he doesnt shot himself first.

[Hawkin 0]

He needs a mental health check.