Guest Posted June 6, 2014 I have a huge basement, easily shoot .22 into a bullet trap from over 50 ft, is there any law preventing me from shooting in my basement? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
papercutninja 24 Posted June 6, 2014 I know of an FFL that has this in his basement. As long as your town does not have "no-discharge" laws, go for it. Install an air filtration system and away you go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveMcL 18 Posted June 6, 2014 Don't know your location but cci 22 cb shorts or longs with good ventalation would be good for me. Blast away. Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PeteF 1,044 Posted June 6, 2014 Hows the ceiling? A 22 might be able to get thru a floor. To have an indoor firing range I'd think it out real well. Ventilation? Lead in the air? etc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,138 Posted June 6, 2014 ...Lead in the air? And let's not forget powder, primer and bullet 'spit' on the floor between the muzzle and the target. And the spouse-unit may not be keen on the noise factor! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 6, 2014 Well it's a 3400 sq ft basement. How much lead can 50 -100 rounds put out at the end of the basement. I guess can hang the hose from the wet dry vac above the bullet trap. Not concerned about the ceiling, I would probably only shoot if I were alone in the house or wife was downstairs with me. Empty nesters so kids are not a problem. I live in montville. I think the no discharge rule applies to public places. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 6, 2014 No person shall purposely discharge, fire or carry any loaded handgun, rifle, shotgun, other firearm or bow as defined herein within the Township of Montville. The state has a law which is written in the town ordnance, no discharge within 400 feet of a residence. So much for that plan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2014 No person shall purposely discharge, fire or carry any loaded handgun, rifle, shotgun, other firearm or bow as defined herein within the Township of Montville. The state has a law which is written in the town ordnance, no discharge within 400 feet of a residence. So much for that plan I still say go for it. It's inside your own house. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted June 7, 2014 I would want more ventilation that a shop vac would provide. That will only pick up a fraction of what winds up in the air if anything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2014 I still say go for it. It's inside your own house. I might, you can't hear anything in the basement outside, and how much lead can there be after shooting an occasional 50 rounds or so. It's not like a public indoor range with the volume and the caliber. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
High Exposure 5,689 Posted June 7, 2014 It's not so much the lead from the actual bullets, it's the toxic fumes from the ignition of the powder and primer that you need to pull from the air. They aren't so much at the terminus of the bullets flight path, they are more at the point of ignition - 12 inches or so from your face. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2014 With a basement that big you could certainly have a ton of fun with a really good air rifle... There are also some great air pistols too --- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
paulnj088 9 Posted June 7, 2014 just hire a company to put one in for you Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted June 7, 2014 just hire a company to put one in for you That would mean permits and that would mean government involvement. My guess with ventilation, certified bullet stop and containment materials, soundproofing, and lead recovery that would cost at least $25-30K before you put one round down range. You would also have to pay for a DEP licensed lead removal firm periodically. There would also be insurance issues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2014 I'm a plumber. I pull pounds of lead out of houses all the time with a sawzall. No DEP license required. There is however a led certification to cut out a piece of sheetrock larger than one square foot, in homes built before 78. Because there may possibly be lead paint lol. Hell we can still use lead for cast joints, lead bends for toilets, sheet lead for shower pans, or sweat copper waste with lead solder. Not that I do but, Its approved in the code if we want to. A few bullets is that big of a deal? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greydaddy 2 Posted June 7, 2014 Go for it! If you knew the stuff I've breathed, ingested and have stuck and still in my body, you'd think I should have been dead by now! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2014 Well it's a 3400 sq ft basement. Do you live in the Versailles Palace? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Greydaddy 2 Posted June 7, 2014 Go for it! If you knew the stuff I've breathed, ingested and have stuck and still in my body, you'd think I should have been dead by now! Adding to that, we had a shooting range in the basement of my high school, and I don't believe there was any special ventilation. I'm not saying lead is good for you, but doubt a shooting session once in a while would be all that bad! You could install a fan or fans in the basement windows or install an air cleaner which are not all that expensive. I have both in my basement wood shop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2014 With a basement that big you could certainly have a ton of fun with a really good air rifle... There are also some great air pistols too --- Ill second this, Years back we had an old chicken coop converted to a garage. It was about 25' wide and 100' long. We had a heavy pice of canvas for a back stop and a 20' soft pine 2x4 we would lne up used shot gun shells on. First one to knock off 25 shells was the winner. Good times, no lead exposure, no noise and no shrapnel. Besides all that, where the *&/#$ are you gona buy 22 at any way lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2014 Do you live in the Versailles Palace? Nope a large ranch and the basement is the foot print of the entire house Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2014 Winchester super x lead free ammo...that might be the ticket Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2014 Nope a large ranch and the basement is the foot print of the entire house Not busting here pal. I have a two-story plus basement and attic. The basement footprint is about one-fourth that of all the floors. Given your dimensions, that would give you roughly 13,600 sq ft of living space. Perhaps not the Versailles, but definitely mansion sized. BTW, I agree with a previous poster that your space is ideal for an air gun. They are real firearms. You can get them in .22 as well as one smaller caliber and I believe a .24 or .25 (someone will correct me). You don't have to worry about lead, gases, noise, and you get about 80% of the fun of shooting a .22. Your wife won't even know you're doing it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2014 Not busting here pal. I have a two-story plus basement and attic. The basement footprint is about one-fourth that of all the floors. Given your dimensions, that would give you roughly 13,600 sq ft of living space. Perhaps not the Versailles, but definitely mansion sized. BTW, I agree with a previous poster that your space is ideal for an air gun. They are real firearms. You can get them in .22 as well as one smaller caliber and I believe a .24 or .25 (someone will correct me). You don't have to worry about lead, gases, noise, and you get about 80% of the fun of shooting a .22. Your wife won't even know you're doing it Your math is off. The living space is 3500 sq.feet, unfinished basement is the same...it's a ranch...one floor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 7, 2014 I say go for, make it 2 lanes and invite me over! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alec.mc 180 Posted June 7, 2014 throw a couple bags of sand up and call it a day. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted June 7, 2014 I'm a plumber. I pull pounds of lead out of houses all the time with a sawzall. No DEP license required. There is however a led certification to cut out a piece of sheetrock larger than one square foot, in homes built before 78. Because there may possibly be lead paint lol.Hell we can still use lead for cast joints, lead bends for toilets, sheet lead for shower pans, or sweat copper waste with lead solder. Not that I do but, Its approved in the code if we want to. A few bullets is that big of a deal? Deerslayer, being a licensed plumber you know how to use and dispose of lead. Range cleanup is a different issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondd817 828 Posted June 7, 2014 I always liked a sprawling ranch. That's a big basement. I wouldn't worry about anyone hearing you shooting 22lr in your basement. Just don't tell your neighbors. I would however worry a little about ventilation. I assume your heating/ac air handler is in the basement? I wouldn't want that lead/powder/smell getting into my living space, which it will through your system. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 8, 2014 I always liked a sprawling ranch. That's a big basement. I wouldn't worry about anyone hearing you shooting 22lr in your basement. Just don't tell your neighbors. I would however worry a little about ventilation. I assume your heating/ac air handler is in the basement? I wouldn't want that lead/powder/smell getting into my living space, which it will through your system. No ventilation in the basement, steps and door to garage. Here is a laugh for you..jersey city detective lives next door.. He's cool though. Can't hear outside anyhow. My son is also a cop...he is making plans and choosing a target rifle and bullet trap...all is good..buy a home hepa filter, don t plan on shooting that much..just for the fun of it. I am a gold member at woodland park too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted June 8, 2014 Deerslayer, being a licensed plumber you know how to use and dispose of lead. Range cleanup is a different issue.Yeah I'm sure you can guess where the lead I remove is reused. I eventually dispose of it at the range as well lol... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted June 8, 2014 http://www.negairmachines.com/ Buy a real negative air machine - the same type used for asbestos or lead abatement. Run it while you shoot to exhaust the airborne lead particulate. This is not an engineering design. If you choose to follow or not follow this advice, I bear no responsibility for your actions. IANALBIAAE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites