Golf battery 1,223 Posted November 15, 2014 Send me an email address. I can do that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted November 15, 2014 Here it is. First one to use it wins I guess Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted November 15, 2014 Thanks checko. I be ignant. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted November 15, 2014 And here's his dinner that he sent me as well. I'm not sure what to make of the $5 bill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golf battery 1,223 Posted November 15, 2014 I love this photo. I was in s dakota and ordered pasta It sucked so bad along with the service i got so bored of waiting. Well this was my masterpiece. The 5 bucks was my tip. Ocd or something. Probably adhd kicking in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted November 15, 2014 Yessir. We match prices also BTW. We WILL NOT deliver. Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk http://m.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=49683546&cp=4406646.4413993.4414427.4414433 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted November 15, 2014 http://m.dickssportinggoods.com/product/index.jsp?productId=49683546&cp=4406646.4413993.4414427.4414433 Are you asking for a price match on this one? Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikeyjones 88 Posted November 15, 2014 If you're looking for a safe, amsec, sturdy, or graffunder. Everything else doesn't even come close. Even among those, graffunder is way ahead of the competition. The other brands like liberty and cannon are rsc's at best and lockers at worst. It really comes down to how much you want to spend. But I don't see the point in spending thousands on guns then cheapening out on something that's supposed to protect the investment Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,570 Posted November 15, 2014 IMO, a balance must be obtained to one's personal situation between an alarm system, gun insurance, and a safe. But, all three are necessary. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted November 16, 2014 Are you asking for a price match on this one? Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk Sure, dicks has it for $799 on black Friday. What can Lowe's do ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted November 16, 2014 Are you asking for a price match on this one? Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk Sure, dicks has it for $799 on black Friday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
checko 180 Posted November 16, 2014 Sure, dicks has it for $799 on black Friday. What can Lowe's do ? We carry stack on. Has to be the same item. Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DeerSlayer 241 Posted November 16, 2014 We carry stack on. Has to be the same item. Sent from my XT1080 using Tapatalk Gotcha. Thought Sentinel was a Stack-On product. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimB1 555 Posted November 18, 2014 Thanks guys. I need to check out some of the Black Friday deals. My wife has been bugging me about a safe for a while now, she wants a Henry rifle Tractor supply is looking pretty good, they have Winchester and Cannon safes that look pretty nice. Dicks is kind of a pain because they never seem to have the safes in stock so you end up paying for shipping. I have a full size pickup and can get a couple of friends to help if needed so to save $150 -175 delivery fee I have no problem picking up the safe myself... I should have got the safe last year when Lowes and HD both were carrying Liberty, would have been easier... Hindsight is 20/20 I guess. -Jim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelrc51 0 Posted November 18, 2014 If you're looking for a safe, amsec, sturdy, or graffunder. Everything else doesn't even come close. Even among those, graffunder is way ahead of the competition. The other brands like liberty and cannon are rsc's at best and lockers at worst. It really comes down to how much you want to spend. But I don't see the point in spending thousands on guns then cheapening out on something that's supposed to protect the investment Well said but you are speaking to many people with different budgets and other variables. Doing what I do I find these questions hard to try and add a helpful response. I am going to contact a few distributors and see if I can get some info on a possible group buy. I am already in the industry so I would think this will be fairly easy to setup. Mods, I will contact you to check if this conforms to the rules as soon as I get some more info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arbelest 29 Posted November 18, 2014 Dicks is kind of a pain because they never seem to have the safes in stock so you end up paying for shipping. I have a full size pickup and can get a couple of friends to help if needed so to save $150 -175 delivery fee I have no problem picking up the safe myself... Dicks you can order on-line and ship to store for free. When you pick it up they will put it in your truck for you. That's how I did it. Also me and a friend moved the 32+6 gun safe our selves, we had a hand truck do most of the work. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelrc51 0 Posted November 18, 2014 Dicks you can order on-line and ship to store for free. When you pick it up they will put it in your truck for you. That's how I did it. Also me and a friend moved the 32+6 gun safe our selves, we had a hand truck do most of the work. It makes it easier if you remove the safe door and move it in 2 pieces. The door will lift of when in the open position. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45Doll 5,877 Posted November 18, 2014 Well this thread really set me off examining the various aspects of home security. Here's another article on safes (for gold and silver) that I thought summarized some key points and explained various UL ratings and what they mean. http://www.321gold.com/editorials/laborde/laborde120212.html My personal posture is that a RSC (residential security container) serves just two purposes: keep guns out of the hands of kids or any other casual visitors, and prevent any simple smash and grab burglar from just running off with everything. Most big box model safes are various levels of RSCs.The UL RSC classification means that any specific RSC labelled container will resist forced opening for up to *five* minutes by an attacker using simple, non powered, hand tools. We're talking screwdrives, hammers, and pry bars LESS then 18" long. RSC's are not rated against any attack by power tools or any attack lasting longer then five minutes. I have noted that given enough time and tools, ANY safe can be defeated. And time seems to be the most likely variable in play, since most residential burglars don't travel with torches, explosives, six foot pry bars etc. So in other words if I buy a $5,000 safe but have no alarm system to dramatically shorten a burglar's work time, I may not have accomplished much. So when thinking safe and secure gun storage, don't focus just on the safe as your single point of failure. Include: A house as secure as possible, with obvious security weaknesses removed. A monitored alarm system so burglars have limited time to work. Insurance to cover the amount of your gun collection you'd like to recover. (Almost anything can be replaced if you have the money.) A closed mouth, so the fact you even have a safe and why is not public information. A safe whose strength and security is commensurate with the value you're protecting, bolted down in an appropriate fashion. Perhaps some select firearms concealed elsewhere in the house. (If they can see it, your safe is an obvious suggestion where to look.) At least a basic plan of defense against home invasion. (Do they have to break the safe open if they have a gun to your wife's head and ask you for the combination?) Just some more things to think about. At the end of the day, security is an illusion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelrc51 0 Posted November 18, 2014 Well this thread really set me off examining the various aspects of home security. Here's another article on safes (for gold and silver) that I thought summarized some key points and explained various UL ratings and what they mean. http://www.321gold.com/editorials/laborde/laborde120212.html My personal posture is that a RSC (residential security container) serves just two purposes: keep guns out of the hands of kids or any other casual visitors, and prevent any simple smash and grab burglar from just running off with everything. Most big box model safes are various levels of RSCs.The UL RSC classification means that any specific RSC labelled container will resist forced opening for up to *five* minutes by an attacker using simple, non powered, hand tools. We're talking screwdrives, hammers, and pry bars LESS then 18" long. RSC's are not rated against any attack by power tools or any attack lasting longer then five minutes. I have noted that given enough time and tools, ANY safe can be defeated. And time seems to be the most likely variable in play, since most residential burglars don't travel with torches, explosives, six foot pry bars etc. So in other words if I buy a $5,000 safe but have no alarm system to dramatically shorten a burglar's work time, I may not have accomplished much. So when thinking safe and secure gun storage, don't focus just on the safe as your single point of failure. Include: A house as secure as possible, with obvious security weaknesses removed. A monitored alarm system so burglars have limited time to work. Insurance to cover the amount of your gun collection you'd like to recover. (Almost anything can be replaced if you have the money.) A closed mouth, so the fact you even have a safe and why is not public information. A safe whose strength and security is commensurate with the value you're protecting, bolted down in an appropriate fashion. Perhaps some select firearms concealed elsewhere in the house. (If they can see it, your safe is an obvious suggestion where to look.) At least a basic plan of defense against home invasion. (Do they have to break the safe open if they have a gun to your wife's head and ask you for the combination?) Just some more things to think about. At the end of the day, security is an illusion. This is a pretty good synapsis. A real safe and not an RSC you won't be able to pry open without using some kind of hydraulic device. Also, any TL15, TL30, and TL60 you WON'T be able to break into. Even with my vast knowledge and years of experience I haven't seen any normal theif actually get into the safe. Some have had 6-8 hours to do so.... I am not going to get specific but those safes are not penetratable without specific tools and experience. This is not a safe you will find in a house unless there are a lot of valuables but simply put you aren't getting into one period unless you are a safe technician. I just wanted to point out that there are actual safes that people won't be able to get into. If you have the right tools, time, and knowledge anything is possible. But there are very few people that have the knowledge to do so. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
michaelrc51 0 Posted November 18, 2014 Ok, I contacted liberty directly and well I kind of got the run around. The place in Mt Laurel said it will take a few weeks for him to get pricing together. I think they are giving me the run around so..... He wants to have people together and know what they want before giving out pricing so there isn't any way to put something together here. If he actually does get back to me in a week or two and give me pricing I would be shocked. Also, I am to close to there other dealers to start a dealership. I can get Amsec, Gardall, and many other safes for a good discount. If you are interested in any of these other brands contact me and I will get you a price. These safe manufacturers make more than just gun safes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites