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I have two questions regarding FID application. So I have seen three psychiatrists for ADD, and while I know this is not a disqualifying factor, I do not know the exact dates or years that I attended, and mind you that I am currently 20 and attended from ages around 7 to 17 or 18. This is a problem because the application asks this, and then asks for the names and dates of such occurences. Is it okay if I state that I do not know the dates of such occurences, or if I give the date estimations of which (I do know the names)?
My second question is regarding references. I do not know any police officers well enough to be able to ask them to use them for my FID, so will two friends that I grew up with do just fine? Thank you.
On Thursday, March 23, the full Assembly is scheduled for a floor vote on an amended version of A2938. The bill is a reappearance of legislation defeated by ANJRPC and NRA in 2013, which in its original form would have allowed marriage counselors, social workers, nurses, and other unaccountable health professionals to report protected patient information to the Attorney General, resulting in seizure of their patients' firearms without due process, if they "believed" the patient was a danger to themselves or others.
At an unusually lengthy committee hearing last September at which ANJRPC, NRA, and NSSF testified, lawmakers from both parties acknowledged that the legislation was seriously flawed and Democrats said they would attempt to address the issues raised.
Recent floor amendments to A2938 added due process in the form of a court order before firearms could be taken, and limited when reporting could be made (either when a patient makes threats of imminent physical violence, or when a reasonable practitioner would conclude that an act of serious physical violence is imminent). The amendments also changed the reporting authority from the Attorney General to local law enforcement.
However, the amendments created an entirely new issue -- allowing firearms seized under the amended provisions to subsequently be disposed of as a complete forfeiture without any compensation to the owner. Only in the case of the worst criminal misconduct is forfeiture of property authorized and indeed, even in the domestic violence setting, seized firearms are not forfeited and there is a defined process for them to be sold by the legal owner. Applying forfeiture provisions to persons who have sought counseling is as absurd as it is outrageous and unfair.
Even as amended the legislation still allows unaccountable health professionals to violate patient confidences and threaten property rights. The net effect of A2938 will be to discourage those who need help the most from seeking it.
Please immediately tell every Assembly Member to Vote NO on A2938. Tell them that the January floor amendments outrageously and unfairly allow the forfeiture of seized firearms without compensation, and that unaccountable health professionals should not be empowered to violate patient confidences and threaten property rights. Tell them that the unintended consequence of A2938 even as amended will be to discourage those who need help the most from seeking it in the first place.
Legislator contact information is available by clicking here.
Since it is my opinion that the root causes of the series of highly-publicized mass shootings are mental illness and / or the breakdown of morals in this country, we the people should focus on fixing those things and not try to regulate the inanimate objects used to commit those acts of violence. I came across an article that this morning that caused me to post here: https://www.yahoo.com/politics/guns-congress-and-murphys-law-090049362.html
“I’m focused on what’s in their head, not in their hand,” he said. “I want to prevent the problems, and when they emerge, I want to ensure that we do the proper risk assessment, and that persons who have a tendency toward violence, if they are seriously mentally ill, should not be able to attain weapons. That’s what I’m focused on cleaning up. That’s what I can do.” - Rep. Tim Murphy, PhD (R-Pa.)
H.R. 3717 "Helping Families In Mental Health Crisis Act"
Summary here: http://murphy.house.gov/uploads/MHOnePager2.18.15.pdf
"The Helping Families in Mental Health Crisis Act
Untreated serious mental illness in recent acts of mass violence – Adam Lanza (Newtown, CT), James Holmes (Aurora, CO), Jared Loughner (Tucson, AZ), Aaron Alexis (Washington, DC), Elliot Rodger (Santa Barbara, CA) – demands action.
The federal government spends $130 billion annually on mental health. Yet, over the last 20 years the rates of violence, suicide, homelessness, victimization, and incarceration among the mentally have increased.
The House Energy & Commerce Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations revealed that those who need help the most have been getting it the least. An astounding forty percent of Americans with a serious mental illness (SMI) are not receiving treatment.
Despite this record of failure, the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA) has not been reauthorized since the Clinton Administration. More than half of the programs for those with serious mental illness at SAMHSA have never been evaluated for effectiveness or quality.
That is why I will reintroduce the Helping Families In Mental Health Crisis Act (H.R. 3717, 113th) to refocus programs and resources to families and patients with the most challenging cases of serious mental illnesses and bring accountability to federal programs."
- Reforms the Substance Abuse & Mental Health Services Administration (SAMHSA)
- Empowers Parents and Caregivers
- Fixes Shortage of Inpatient Beds
- Reaching Underserved and Rural Populations
- High Quality Behavioral Health Clinics
- Alternatives to Institutionalization
- Advances Critical Medical Research
- Criminal Justice Reforms
- Integrates Primary & Behavioral Care
Bill here: http://murphy.house.gov/uploads/HR3717%20Bill%20Text.pdf
Most of you know that I try to regularly highlight the fact that violence and accidents can occur with a variety of inanimate objects (http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/72109-no-firearms-used-can-society-admit-that-its-not-firearms-that-are-the-problem-but-violence-itself-that-is-the-problem/). It is my belief that by taking action to improve the way that our society can identify and treat those that need help, we can reduce not only mass or individual violence, but self-violence (suicide) as well.
Yes, this bill may appear to encroach a bit into personal privacy issues a bit, but, in my opinion, society needs to "say something if they see something." For example, even though I may not care for a particular neighbor, as a responsible member of society, if I see someone breaking into his house, or his house is on fire, I'm going to put my dislike aside and call 911.
We as a country can't go on this way. Even if the most unaware driver can't hear the brakes grinding on their vehicle, somebody will eventually say something before they fail and cause an accident.
hey guys, quick question, i applied for my FID a little while ago and have a little bit of a concern on how i may have answered one of the questions and more so how they would go about finding out the info.
i had a slight problem with prescription pain medicine and sought the help of a doctor and am currently prescribed a medicine to control cravings called suboxone (it is a class III drug) i pay for all the visits out of pocket and prescriptions out of pocket.
i am very new to the processes and the way questions are worded with NJ gun laws and when i was asked #25, i answered as though i felt no as was seeking help and not dependent, also when answering #26 about mental health technically i could have answered yes but i answered no thinking they are talking about people in one flew over the cuckoos nest...
well bottom line is i called a lawyer to ask his opinion and the lawyer deff had an agenda and really freaked me out saying i will deff not get it and probably be charged for not telling the truth on my application but to save his number and make sure to call him right away with any problems....
how do they find out what medicine your taking or what doctors you see? especially if its a non insurance transaction? thanks guys any info or anyone with similar situations would be a huge help i am really upset about this :/
note: i had no intentions of falsifying any info and when asking this right now i want to let you know that i do not have the intent of being sneeky i really mis understood the questions i think, im just now (2 weeks later) thinking it mat be a problem
it would just really suck that if getting help could be used against you
For sale brand new in case, never fired Magnum Research Desert Eagle in .50AE. Still has factory oil on it. My impulsiveness is your gain. Basic model in black and comes with single magazine. Willing to meet within 30-45 minutes of Burlington at your FFL or can go through mine in Florence. Obviously must have FID, permit, etc. as required by the state for an FFL to do a transfer. All FFL fees to be paid by buyer. The first to post "I'll take it" wins the sale. Asking $1250 or best reasonable offer.
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