Heavyopp 167 Posted March 8, 2017 You guys with FFLs -- Are there any issues with sending a copy to a private citizen selling a firearm? I just bought a shotgun on gunbroker from a private seller -- went to my FFL and asked him to send his paperwork over to the seller -- he asked if it was a shop or private sale -- says its suggested that FFL holders not send their paperwork to private citizens I'm not sure who suggests that but he had said its to stop copies from being used in fraudulent ways. Now I really like the guy I use -- he's really easy to deal with -- just wondering if there are any real issues with private citizens having a copy of your FFL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted March 8, 2017 No issues. Paranoid dealer. Mine is on website. Plenty of copies on Internet. BTW, the sending non-licensee is not required to have a copy per law. Sent from an undisclosed location Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diamondd817 828 Posted March 8, 2017 Private seller can look up the FFL on the BATF website to make sure they are legit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remixer 1,645 Posted March 8, 2017 Mine is also downloadable from my site. No issues at all accepting from a private seller. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heavyopp 167 Posted March 8, 2017 BTW, the sending non-licensee is not required to have a copy per law. Sent from an undisclosed location I bet that is what he is trying to tell me -- He's definitely not a paranoid dealer -- He was just speculating why he's asked not to send a copy to non-dealers We actually talked about how easy it would be to get a copy of a FFL over the internet Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted March 8, 2017 I bet that is what he is trying to tell me -- He's definitely not a paranoid dealer -- He was just speculating why he's asked not to send a copy to non-dealers We actually talked about how easy it would be to get a copy of a FFL over the internet RIght, but the sender should always verify the FFL information via FFLeZCheck. Maybe someday, ATF will have a "secure" database for everyone to use for that verification so that there would be no need to even look at a license. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heavyopp 167 Posted March 10, 2017 BTW, the sending non-licensee is not required to have a copy per law. Where would I find this law? It's becoming an issue -- gonna have to use another FFL soon for this transfer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted March 10, 2017 Where would I find this law? It's becoming an issue -- gonna have to use another FFL soon for this transfer Actually, the law says that FFLs must get a copy of the receiving FFL license. It excludes non-dealers. Sent from an undisclosed location Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heavyopp 167 Posted March 10, 2017 These 2 guys don't want to deal with each other -- Turns out they sent some emails back and forth Anyway -- Contacting another FFL today and see if I can get this thing moving along I was reading what I could find -- Nothing says sender must have a copy of FFl before sending -- just that seller must send to a confirmed FFL holder -- confirmation on ATF website All this for a single shot shotgun... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpio64 5,169 Posted March 10, 2017 Funny this should come up now. I got off the phone a little while ago with Tom from HGW. I am buying my first out of state transfer item, and it's from a private seller. Tom suggested that the seller contact HGW to acquire a digital copy of his FFL, for the sellers benefit. It is not necessary for private transactions, but it's a good cya for the seller. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heavyopp 167 Posted March 10, 2017 I got it handled -- Just 2 guys butting heads... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted March 10, 2017 I gave up awhile back. Now everyone can have a copy of my license. Not worth the effort restricting non-licensee. GunBroker even says everyone must have a copy. Sent from an undisclosed location Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heavyopp 167 Posted March 11, 2017 It's funny because the FFL I ended up using sent both myself and the Seller a copy All is well -- gun will ship monday Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites