ben 0 Posted April 15, 2009 I just went and submitted my application for 2 purchase permits, already have my FID. I don't know if they're jerking me around or not, but I was told to pay for an $18 fee in order for the STATE police to run a background check. :?: I paid the "fee" but I told them, tactfully, that I was unaware of any other fee besides those listed according to state statutes. When I asked the dispatcher if NICS was available at the local level, I was informed that it was. From what I understood, State Police handled the applications if no local force was available. My area is pretty congested and there are plenty of officers around. So, why isn't the NICS being done at my local PD? Why are they even sending it to state? Is the $18 fee illegally imposed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PoorSoulInJersey 1 Posted April 15, 2009 I was told the same thing when I went for more permits a couple weeks ago. I don't know the laws that well, so I didn't really think anything of it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted April 15, 2009 The $18 is correct. They are not jerking your chain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben 0 Posted April 15, 2009 I really need to get out of Jersey. It took less than a week to get my CCW in NC. $50 for a class, $5 for records check. With a CCW I was able to purchase any pistol at any time. How did it get so bad here? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted April 15, 2009 Well, there are 2 New Jerseys, North and South. Unfortunately the ideology of N Jersey has dominated over the years with the influence of transplanted NYC liberals. And, a huge voter apathy towards the most Legally corrupt state in the Union. Other states send their Pols to jail for what happens here as SOP. Judicial Activism is another hit we take. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben 0 Posted April 15, 2009 I'll tell ya, when I would drive up from NC I knew I was in NJ from the stink! :mrgreen: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njpilot 671 Posted April 15, 2009 tbtrout said: And, a huge voter apathy towards the most Legally corrupt state in the Union. Other states send their Pols to jail for what happens here as SOP. Judicial Activism is another hit we take Vote G.R.I.P. - Get Rid of the Incumbent Politician!!! Make our own term limits, just keep voting them out!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted April 15, 2009 tbtrout said:And, a huge voter apathy towards the most Legally corrupt state in the Union. Other states send their Pols to jail for what happens here as SOP. Judicial Activism is another hit we take Vote G.R.I.P. - Get Rid of the Incumbent Politician!!! Make our own term limits, just keep voting them out!!! Amen brother Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted April 15, 2009 Only $18 state police fee? I paid $55? for the state police fee, $5 for FID, and $10 for pistol permits (5 permits, $2 each). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted April 15, 2009 Only $18 state police fee? I paid $55? for the state police fee, $5 for FID, and $10 for pistol permits (5 permits, $2 each). 5 permits :shock: , it is either wishful thinking, or I need to get a job like yours. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted April 15, 2009 My income is down. =P lol. Blame it on the market. Reason I got 5, is like I mentioned before, all the firearms I shot were purchased by my brother. Now, purchasing some back. =) I got 3 more... though I think 1 will be used this week.... or 2. I may need to extend the last one. I figured $2 is cheap insurance against coming across a great deal that I cannot buy because I dont have a permit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PoorSoulInJersey 1 Posted April 15, 2009 I miss PA. When I had my carry permit, I could buy a handgun on impulse. No more paperwork than buying a rifle, pick up a holster and ammo, walk out to my car and put it on my hip! (they didn't like you loading it in the store...) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandcast69 0 Posted April 15, 2009 For the first set of permits I paid $62.50 for the Background Check from the NJSP. For the second set of permits I paid $18.00 for a Name Check from the NJSP. I was told that if you re-apply for permits within a certain amount of time they don't have to do as indepth a backround check on you. This is for Hamilton Twp, Atlantic County.....YMMV. sandcast69 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJChiroDoc 0 Posted April 15, 2009 I think the first time around is 68 and then everytime after that is 18 plus the permit fees. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ben 0 Posted April 15, 2009 maksim, I paid around $60 when getting my fingerprinting done for the initial FID. I just don't understand why local PDs send applications to the state level. They have access to all the same databases. If anything, local records will usually have more information on you than a state or national database. In my opinion, theses fees amount to taxation to deter people from buying firearms. One of the many ways New Jersey sticks it to you I guess. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fishpaw 17 Posted April 15, 2009 Only $18 state police fee? I paid $55? for the state police fee, $5 for FID, and $10 for pistol permits (5 permits, $2 each). 5 permits :shock: , it is either wishful thinking, or I need to get a job like yours. Its a good idea to always apply for more permits than you actually need....Its such a PITA to get more and ya never know when you might find that deal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted April 15, 2009 Yeah, it was $62.50 for background check. It goes to state police because they also run from FBI? Eh, who knows. It is what it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted April 19, 2009 Everything changed about 2-3 years ago. Before that the $18.00 fee was a one time thing, part of the initial check when you got your FID. Now, our wonderful "Corporate Governor" has made it so that EVERY transaction requires that $18.00 fee. Handgun permits, Change of address, Replace Lost/Stolen FID cards. Everything comes with that requirement for the $18.00 to NJSP. And dont think NJSP is happy about it, especially now with all of the Obama Panic/1 Handgun Per Month scare. Their unit is so backed up it's not funny, which is WHY times, even in the gun-friendly municipalities have extended from around 2-4 weeks to 6-8 minimum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted April 19, 2009 Everything changed about 2-3 years ago. Before that the $18.00 fee was a one time thing, part of the initial check when you got your FID. Now, our wonderful "Corporate Governor" has made it so that EVERY transaction requires that $18.00 fee. Handgun permits, Change of address, Replace Lost/Stolen FID cards. Everything comes with that requirement for the $18.00 to NJSP. And dont think NJSP is happy about it, especially now with all of the Obama Panic/1 Handgun Per Month scare. Their unit is so backed up it's not funny, which is WHY times, even in the gun-friendly municipalities have extended from around 2-4 weeks to 6-8 minimum. didnt know about the extra $18 every time. Ok. next time, 10 permits. lol. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
djg0770 481 Posted April 19, 2009 didnt know about the extra $18 every time. Ok. next time, 10 permits. lol. Me neither and I just submitted for 3 - I will call on Monday or stop by on Tuesday to confirm that I don't need to pay again as I don't want to wait 6 wks and then find out I had to pay up front and it was just a stall tactic. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KpdPipes 388 Posted April 20, 2009 didnt know about the extra $18 every time. Ok. next time, 10 permits. lol. Me neither and I just submitted for 3 - I will call on Monday or stop by on Tuesday to confirm that I don't need to pay again as I don't want to wait 6 wks and then find out I had to pay up front and it was just a stall tactic. IF the transactions are close together, as in a couple of weeks, sometimes they can slip it through. My local guy did it for me after i did my change of address last year. A LOT depends on the local PD though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tankcommander 4 Posted April 20, 2009 I've heard that different towns can charge there own processing fee, for the application. I haven't got a hand gun permit in awhile. Do they require notification of your employer? TC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted April 21, 2009 . Do they require notification of your employer? TC Yes they do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted April 23, 2009 tbtrout, can you tell me where there is a requirement to notify your employer? I've never heard of this??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DPNJ 3 Posted April 23, 2009 When I I got permits back in Jan, I had to state my employer , but the employer wasn't notified Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldslabsides 2 Posted April 23, 2009 My local PD requires that you get fingerprinted every two years. Just in case your fingerprints change, you know. Any other PD's do that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maksim 1,504 Posted April 23, 2009 My local PD requires that you get fingerprinted every two years. Just in case your fingerprints change, you know. Any other PD's do that? finger prints do change over time.... but not in 2 years.... that is a wierd requirement though, every 2 years... do they charge you every 2 years? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbtrout 141 Posted April 23, 2009 Each town seems to have its own odd little way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldslabsides 2 Posted April 23, 2009 finger prints do change over time.... but not in 2 years.... that is a wierd requirement though, every 2 years... do they charge you every 2 years? Yes, $68.00. NJ's redundancies cost us a lot of money. With all the fees I've paid over the past 30 years, I probably could have had a 1928 Thompson. If I lived in PA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GRIZ 3,369 Posted April 23, 2009 When I I got permits back in Jan, I had to state my employer , but the employer wasn't notified I know you have to put your emplyer down on the application but the way I was reading that post is that they notify your employer. Never heard of that. IIRC the NJSP website only requires your fingerprints once (and they assign you a SBI#) but they allow local chiefs to call their own shot on that. They used to require fingerprints with every pistol permit application. NJSP said we only need them once in the late 70s or early 80s. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites