revenger 473 Posted October 2, 2020 is there any special license that I need to use a muzzleloader other than my firearm license. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted October 2, 2020 Yes u need a ml and rifle permit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 473 Posted October 2, 2020 ok thanks 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, revenger said: ok thanks Ml season is almost as good as bow... but you need to buy the permits for ML...AND have a NJ rifle permit...5 bucks as i recall...foe the rifle permit.... You can hunt all Jan..on ML...as i recall... The compendium had the data... 45 or better... I hunted with a 54.... 45 too light..and 50cal 45 sabots suck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaddyNick 408 Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, USRifle30Cal said: Ml season is almost as good as bow... but you need to buy the permits for ML...AND have a NJ rifle permit...5 bucks as i recall...foe the rifle permit.... You can hunt all Jan..on ML...as i recall... The compendium had the data... 45 or better... I hunted with a 54.... 45 too light..and 50cal 45 sabots suck Not necessarily. Every zone is different. I hunt 23 & 19. 23 is tight. No guns in January. Where as 19 is muzzy and shotgun in January. Believe the rifle permit is $10 or 11$ now. And the muzzleloader permits are zone specific. 28$ per permit per zone and another 28$ for a buck tag. As for sabots they don't suck. Once you find the right powder and bullet combo they are deadly. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CAL. .30 M1 2,101 Posted October 3, 2020 8 hours ago, DaddyNick said: Not necessarily. Every zone is different. I hunt 23 & 19. 23 is tight. No guns in January. Where as 19 is muzzy and shotgun in January. Believe the rifle permit is $10 or 11$ now. And the muzzleloader permits are zone specific. 28$ per permit per zone and another 28$ for a buck tag. As for sabots they don't suck. Once you find the right powder and bullet combo they are deadly. I found the sabots in my sidelocks percs and flints not to be so accurate. I always had luck with a straight up patched round ball But then again i never shot inlines or whatever new fancy stuff Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaddyNick 408 Posted October 3, 2020 8 hours ago, USRifle30Cal said: I found the sabots in my sidelocks percs and flints not to be so accurate. I always had luck with a straight up patched round ball But then again i never shot inlines or whatever new fancy stuff I failed to mention the barrel twist rate has a lot to do with which bullet to use. The older traditional sidelock guns have a slower twist in the barrels. Some are 1:48" and some 1:60 or 66". The newer guns and most inlines are 1:35 or even 1:28". Sabots fly better with a faster twist barrel. I have 2 traditional bp guns and they shoot round ball and full size maxi hunters bullets good to 50-75 yards. Iron sights so I'm not shooting far. The twist in those is 1:48". When the weather is crappy/wet I bring out the stainless/synthetic T/C Encore and it likes a 240gr bullet in a sabot. It's barrel twist is 1:28". Rifle like accuracy. Leupold scope on it. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
revenger 473 Posted October 4, 2020 Thanks for all the replies Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parker 213 Posted October 4, 2020 I've only used T/C's Maxi-Ball in my 1:48 twist Renegade. Buffalo Bullets worked as well when I could get them, but the 425 gr. Maxi-Ball always gave me the best accuracy, so I've stuck with that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tony357 386 Posted October 5, 2020 I only used T/C maxi balls cast my own. Miss muzzloader hunting have not ever since i started the business back in 2003. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smokin .50 1,907 Posted October 5, 2020 My half-stock .50 cal Lyman Trade Rifle with 1/48 twist loves 370 grain T/C Maxi-Balls w/ 72 grains of FFFg real Goex underneath. Here's what I've done at 50 yards offhand with primitive, non-adjustable open iron sights during a regular monthly competition at Old Bridge R&P Black Powder league, 89 x 100-4X. As you can see I'm guilty of minor "vertical stringing" due to heart beat. The one in upper right is a called flier. Those Maxi's have a habit of "twinning" themselves as you can see here on this B-19 50 Yard International Target. Bicentennial quarter for size. Notice how sharply cut the bullet holes are. I earned my NRA Distinguished Expert in Muzzleloading Rifle with this rifle & Maxi combo. Here's what a single 370 grain Maxi can do to a 290 pound hog with a headshot at 22 yards. He dropped where he was hit! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites