Xtors 333 Posted August 22, 2023 https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/breaking-huge-2a-win-in-massachusetts-penalties-for-carrying-across-state-lines-axed-by-state-court-another-step-to-constitutional-carry.7185308/ UGUST 21, 2023. LOWELL MASSACHUSETTS. Just before the official business day closed today Monday, August 21, 2023, the Lowell District Court had reached it's verdict regarding Massachusett's overbearing gun laws and License To Carry (LTC) requirements. A state with gun laws similar to New York City, which have seen the arrests, incarceration, and fining of many unwary travelers who had carried their legally owned firearms across state/city lines, this case began when a New Hampshire man named Dean Donnell, who is licensed to carry in his home state, was arrested by Massachusetts state police during a routine traffic stop when MA troopers discovered that Mr. Donnell did not hold a MA LTC required to carry in the state of Massachusetts. Instead of taking plea deals or agreeing to reduced/dropped charges in exchange for a hefty fine, Mr. Donnell filed a case back at the state citing that the core principles of the Second Amendment had been violated with his arrest and detaining. In the conclusion of this landmark case today, the Lowell District Court ruled that the State of Massachusett's ordinance barring law abiding concealed carriers from entering the state without a state LTC is UNCONSTITUTIONAL and violates the 2nd Amendment. In addition, they ruled that the arrest of Mr. Dean Donnell on these firearms charges was a violation of his civil rights and had subjected him to 'cruel and unusual punishment' because this issue should NOT have been a criminal issue and subject to criminal penalties. This verdict not only spells doom for Massachusett's blatant constitutional violations preying on law abiding citizens, but sets the groundwork to strike down all other states and localities with similar unconstitutional anti-gun laws. Today's victory is made possible by last year's groundbreaking New York State case NYSRPA (New York State Rifle and Pistol Association) vs. Bruen, which saw the Supreme Court strike down NY State and New York City's anti-CCW and pistol licensing requirements as unconstitutional. 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted August 22, 2023 Hopefully this is the first of many cases where the pendulum is swinging in "our" favor. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted August 22, 2023 This is the SECOND case out of the State of MassaTwoShits to go our way lately. Caetano made stun guns universally lawful to possess as arms. Now this case! May the repercussions travel FAR and WIDE on this one !! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CMJeepster 2,778 Posted August 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, njJoniGuy said: This is the SECOND case out of the State of MassiveTwoShits to go our way lately. FIFY. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,138 Posted August 22, 2023 Compelled reciprocity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted August 22, 2023 21 minutes ago, siderman said: Compelled reciprocity? The asshats in Trenton will shit themselves!! 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted August 23, 2023 Too bad it was just the local state court. No precedent outside MA. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted August 23, 2023 But the "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" for crossing state lines is a very novel strategy. It works in MY mind! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mustang69 505 Posted August 23, 2023 This is great news. Living in southern NH, you have to realize the logical driving route to get many places means I'm crossing the NH/MA border quite a bit. Shopping in a major area (Nashua) is right over the border, and in fact a large mall there straddles the border itself, so driving around the parking lot means you've crossed in MA. Leave Costco to go north and you need to drive through MA, however briefly, to get to the highway. This is one of those times where MA overreach bit them in the ass. Here's hoping it doesn't get overturned on appeal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted August 23, 2023 5 hours ago, njJoniGuy said: But the "Cruel and Unusual Punishment" for crossing state lines is a very novel strategy. It works in MY mind! Crossing into MA is cruel punishment on its own. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
njJoniGuy 2,131 Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, voyager9 said: Crossing into MA is cruel punishment on its own. With the sole exception of the lobster roll, I agree. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
voyager9 3,434 Posted August 24, 2023 1 hour ago, njJoniGuy said: With the sole exception of the lobster roll, I agree. MA is to lobster what Wawa is to hoagies. Keep going northeast for real lobster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXxplosive 824 Posted August 24, 2023 12 hours ago, voyager9 said: Crossing into MA is cruel punishment on its own. How I feel crossing the Delaware into Jersey.................omo. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites