siderman 1,140 Posted May 20, 2011 Classic Arms is selling them 7.62x39 already converted for $499.Problem is they come with 30 rnd mags and if thats a counted part where does that leave us hi-cap crippled states? I'd like to see the parts that were swapped and what they put in and what mag options that leaves us.Cant seem to find any info on them, maybe a call to Classic but I dont think the operaters will know much. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
adler 0 Posted May 20, 2011 New guy here. I'm guessing that they're with it enough to know that it's illegal to have mags over 15 rounds in NJ and will substitute 15-rounders when you order. But I'd call to be sure. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted May 20, 2011 IN B4 VLAD LAWL Hey, if its purely just a pistol grip conversion and doesnt have the proper handguards, gas block, FSB, etc etc etc (all the hard parts) that the arsenal has you may as well just do it yourself. I cant see because its blocked at work, though Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted May 20, 2011 and if thats a counted part where does that leave us hi-cap crippled states? It doesn't do anything. With the way 922 works, if you just take a part off, it will not HURT you. It's not a ratio game, it's a numbers game. Let's say originally the gun had 14 parts, believe that's the right number, and 5 of those parts are U.S. made.....making the gun compliant because it has 9 foreign made parts. Take the U.S. made pistol grip off, you now have 13 total parts and 4 U.S. made parts, still 9 foreign parts. Now you decide to switch from one U.S. made stock to another, and you take the stock off. You now have 12 parts total, 3 U.S. parts left, and still have 9 foreign made parts....making the gun 922R compliant. See where this is going? My point is, it doesn't matter if you take U.S. made parts off of a 922R compliant gun, what matters is if you put foreign parts on the gun. Do you know what parts the gun was converted with? That's important. And I agree with Glenn, for the $500 you can do the simple work yourself and probably save a couple bucks and get the stock, pistol grip, and FCG that you want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted May 20, 2011 I sell rear conversion kits for $160, and full conversion kits for $250. If you leave the front untouched, a quad rail is also available. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted May 20, 2011 IN B4 VLAD LAWL Can't figure that one out. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted May 20, 2011 Can't figure that one out. It's the phonetic version of "LOL". Edit: Can't figure out if you're being sarcastic or not Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PK90 3,573 Posted May 20, 2011 Edit: Can't figure out if you're being sarcastic or not No. I actually didn't know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,140 Posted May 20, 2011 Hey Vic- so basically to be 922 good its needs 9 or less countable foreign parts? 0ne or 10 American parts, doesnt matter? of course the gun wont run with just the one domestic part but thats the idea? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alowerlevel 77 Posted May 20, 2011 Hey Vic- so basically to be 922 good its needs 9 or less countable foreign parts? 0ne or 10 American parts, doesnt matter? of course the gun wont run with just the one domestic part but thats the idea? Did you read this thread? http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/21787-saiga-conversion-information/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
siderman 1,140 Posted May 20, 2011 Read it now, so its 10 prts, 9 to be safe. Just talked to Classic, the swapped parts are Tapco G2 TCG and the stock, and also said they worked on the magwell to accept the 30 mag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted May 21, 2011 Read it now, so its 10 prts, 9 to be safe. This. I was just throwing 9 out there. It's normally a good idea to get to 9 foreign parts at the most, possibly even 8 if you can help it. This way you are covered for several different scenarios. Let's say your buddy has a different stock you want to try out, or something breaks and you replace it for the time being with a foreign part, you can still maintain a functional and also legal firearm. If I remember (and am counting) correctly, my gun is at 10 foreign parts. One for the stock, three for the FCG. PG doesn't count as it wasn't initially on the gun. When I have the extra funds, I will be replacing the handguard with a U.S. made one to get myself down to 9. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted May 21, 2011 PG doesn't count as it wasn't initially on the gun. it is important to understand it DOES count.. but if it is a US part it cancels itself out.. 14 countable parts.. +1 because a pistol grip IS a countable part.. 15 total countable parts... -1 US made pistol grip 14 countable parts... but it is STILL counted.. as far as the guns available seems like a great price providing the work is not junk... I don't think I would personally build one for someone that cheap.. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted May 21, 2011 id consider selling mine if anyone's interested. 922r compliant-NIB! Assemblied but NEVER fired. Furniture is Russian Red! Looks sweet, im sure Vlad & PK will confirm. (unfort, im in a cast for next 2mo) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted May 21, 2011 but it is STILL counted.. I understand that, and understood that when I posted. What I was trying to convey is that using a U.S. made pistol grip won't drop the number of foreign parts on the gun, as it wasn't used to REPLACE a foreign part. I'm glad you cleared that up, as I definitely didn't phrase it correctly. id consider selling mine if anyone's interested. 922r compliant-NIB! Assemblied but NEVER fired. Furniture is Russian Red! Looks sweet, im sure Vlad & PK will confirm. (unfort, im in a cast for next 2mo) You're just in a cast, you didn't lose your arm. Don't give up on an awesome rifle just because you won't be able to use it for a little bit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CageFighter 236 Posted May 21, 2011 i was gonna use the $$$ for a FESTOOL miter saw. looking to start my own biz and need lots of tools. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M4BGRINGO 139 Posted May 22, 2011 PM sent CageFighter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scrap 4 Posted June 4, 2011 Arms and Ammo would you do the work / Sell them fully converted ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vladtepes 1,060 Posted June 4, 2011 Arms and Ammo would you do the work / Sell them fully converted ? I am sure there are people around who are competent enough to do the work for you for a few bucks.. might just want to ask around.. I do not think that he has any for sale that are already converted, but will wait to hear him chime in.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites