Can you guys help me out

[panteramatt 27]

Ok its been covered but I couldnt find a direct answer. I went to my local police department to get my handgun permits. I put 2 on the top. When I went to pick them up the clerk told me I could only get one at a time and I would have to get the next one 30 days later. Now after reading on here I see I can get multiple permits at teh same time just have to wait 30 days between buying guns. She also told me I would have to pay the $18 fro the background check again which is bs. Can you guys tell me what I should say to her when I call tomorrow and show me somewhere I could get proof?

[MikeL417 33]

Call NJSP and let them sort that crap out. The PD has a hard time listening to civvies. Or print out the law and show him/her that.

Mike

[vladtepes 1,060]

Call NJSP and let them sort that crap out. The PD has a hard time listening to civvies. Or print out the law and show him/her that.

Mike

 

option one is better they normally help in my experience..

[Maksim 1,504]

What township is this?

 

Show them the letter from state police. Send email to NJ2AS and have them give a friendly phone call. This is their current project to force township compliance.

 

Second option, call your mayor, and let them know your town is breaking the law. One phone call, and problem solved. Some towns just don't know any better.

[TheLugNutZ 21]

Second option, call your mayor, and let them know your town is breaking the law. One phone call, and problem solved. Some towns just don't know any better.

 

Interesting point. Would work esp if the mayor wants those votes, though he may just get some lip service from them on it.

[Maksim 1,504]

Interesting point. Would work esp if the mayor wants those votes, though he may just get some lip service from them on it.

 

or... the mayor wants to avoid a lawsuit for the town. As per a few speakers at NJ2AS, this has yielded results quite frequently.

[TheLugNutZ 21]

Very true. And with the budget pressures right now, these towns are doing everything they can to save money. Perfect time to act. Its just unreal how some of these towns just pretty much do their own thing.

[Maksim 1,504]

http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/22294-nj-fidpp-compliancy-project/

 

make sure you fill out the compliancy survey.

[lunker 274]

Go to the documents page on www.nj2as.com. Print out the one from the State Police saying local PD MUST issue more than one permit. If they don't follow that, pursue with the State Police. You are out of luck with regard to the $18 though. Every time you apply for permits you have to pay it.

[blksheep 466]

What township is this?

 

Show them the letter from state police. Send email to NJ2AS and have them give a friendly phone call. This is their current project to force township compliance.

 

Second option, call your mayor, and let them know your town is breaking the law. One phone call, and problem solved. Some towns just don't know any better.

 

Sounds like best bet.

[panteramatt 27]

I understand about the $18 but if I apply for more than one, I just pay the $18 once right?

[panteramatt 27]

Can you guys tell me what part of that letter I need? All I see it talks about is multiple guns not permits.

[SpecialK 193]

I understand about the $18 but if I apply for more than one, I just pay the $18 once right?

 

Yes, you should only pay the $18 once for multiple permits at the same time.

[panteramatt 27]

Well guys, just got off the phone with my local lead detective in charge. He went over it with me telling me that he sat down with the attorney general and went over the guidelines. He told me that they can only give one at a time cause they said whats to stop me from taking multiple permits to different dealers in a short span and getting more than one handgun at a time. He told me he was completely on my side and agrees EVERYONE should own a firearm and hates most of NJ's rules but its what he has to do. Kind of made sense. I told him I spoke to several other people that said they can get multiple permits and he said although thats possible, doesnt mean their doing the correct thing.

[TheLugNutZ 21]

Well that is certainly not right. When you purchase from a FFL they have to run you thru NICS, when they run that they will know right away if you purchased another handgun within the last 30 days.

 

BULL ISH

[Tactical Turtle 11]

I think your getting the run around. I suggest calling the njsp and explain to them exactly what happened. I am also a big fan of paper trails. Send a.email with what happened and make.sure.you set it up so you get a receipt when they open.it. paper trails are the.beat especially when.Ur trying to prove a point

[lunker 274]

Since the Detective was cooperative and helpful, bring him a copy of the state police letter. It is VERY EXPLICIT about pd not limiting permits. You will get to see whether he was just blowing smoke up your butt.

[deni 16]

What township is this?

[panteramatt 27]

LAC (lower alloways creek)

[panteramatt 27]

Spoke to my local state police and even he said thats not right.

[panteramatt 27]

Is this the part I need from the letter:

 

 

Your agency is to issue to, and provide the applicant all permits in excess of those requested

specifically for, and under the exemption application. Your department will retain the

requisite number of approved and valid permits as requested in the applicant’s exemption

request until such time as the completed and approved (or denied) application for exemption is

returned to you.

[Ian S 22]

Can you guys tell me what part of that letter I need? All I see it talks about is multiple guns not permits.

Looks like your past needing the part of the letter if you've already started talking to the State PD. But, for future reference... The letter is 6 pages of multiple gun exemption information and the very last paragraph notes that the issuing PD is not authorized to limit the number of permits that are issued.

 

Good luck.

[Ian S 22]

Is this the part I need from the letter:

 

 

Your agency is to issue to, and provide the applicant all permits in excess of those requested

specifically for, and under the exemption application. Your department will retain the

requisite number of approved and valid permits as requested in the applicant’s exemption

request until such time as the completed and approved (or denied) application for exemption is

returned to you.

 

Here's the section you want. Page 5 at the bottom:

Miscellaneous

Please note, regardless of an applicant’s submission or declination of submission for exemption to the recently enacted legislation, your agency is not authorized to, and cannot limit the number of Permits to Purchase a Handgun to an applicant. Those applicants issued multiple permits without exemption are required to comply with the current law, more specifically the purchase of no more than one handgun in a thirty day period.

 

Which also answers the detective's question about "what prevents you from buying two in less than 30 days". You are required to comply with the law. (And NICS would stop you when you go through an FFL.)

[panteramatt 27]

Sweet. I'm going there tomorrow with ammo! Haha.

[lunker 274]

Sweet. I'm going there tomorrow with ammo! Haha.

 

In this State and on a public forum, it is probably worth a clarification that your trip to the police station will be with ammo in the figurative sense (i.e. printed documents.)

[MarkWVU02 47]

 

 

In this State and on a public forum, it is probably worth a clarification that your trip to the police station will be with ammo in the figurative sense (i.e. printed documents.)

 

Haha excellent. I was a little confused at his post too

[panteramatt 27]

Haha, sorry/ Go WVU!!!

[MarkWVU02 47]

Haha, sorry/ Go WVU!!!

 

Hell yeah. Glad to see another Mountaineer fan on the forum

[panteramatt 27]

Family is from there and I did a short stint at WVU.

[Underdog 1,593]

Family is from there and I did a short stint at WVU.

 

And they issued you a permit? It's a wonder you even got a permit!

 

Just kidding, my brother went there.