TX_CHL 0 Posted May 24, 2012 Howdy from Texas, This summer my fiancee and I are visiting her family. I have a Texas CHL and can carry in every state I pass through and plan to. I read the laws on how to store my pistol while passing through New Jersey (locked away with no ammo) but didn't quickly find a layman's guide to owning one as a non-resident staying for a while. Can I keep my pistol locked away and unloaded at her families house or should I rent a bank lock box in Pennsylvania? Thank you, TX_CHL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BarkNBite 15 Posted May 24, 2012 IMO..............you cannot have that handgun in NJ just visiting unless your LE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted May 24, 2012 You would be in violation of NJ law. If it was me, I would store it outside NJ and pick it up as I was leaving. Good luck. Love TX btw, great place and great people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deadeye74 5 Posted May 24, 2012 I would say as long as the hand gun is "NJ legal" you should be ok securing it where your staying. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LorenzoS 100 Posted May 24, 2012 Sadly there is no legal way for a civilian non resident to bring a handgun to NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lunker 274 Posted May 24, 2012 I know it sounds retarded, but possession of a handgun is illegal in New Jersey except when it falls under very specific conditions. You can have them in your home, in your place of business if you are the owner, to and from a range, to and from the place of purchase. I may have forgotten one or two (like to and from hunting?), but you get the idea. There is a Federal law that protects you if you are just passing through, but you are out of luck if your plan is to stay here. I would do what you suggested, and stop somewhere BEFORE the Jersey border where your gun is still legal, and store it there. Good luck, and try to enjoy your stay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hd2000fxdl 422 Posted May 24, 2012 Sadly there is no legal way for a civilian non resident to bring a handgun to NJ. So every competition the is held in NJ and people from out of state attend they are all now risking arrest???? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickC 23 Posted May 24, 2012 So every competition the is held in NJ and people from out of state attend they are all now risking arrest???? Good question Harry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jon 264 Posted May 24, 2012 They are not risking arrest, as they are traveling directly to or from a range. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bry@n 195 Posted May 24, 2012 As I read it, isn't it specifically NRA sponsored events also? I could be wrong. I know going to and from the range is okay, but then high tail it out before they get you. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted May 24, 2012 Welcome to NJ, the "Keep quiet, and don't get caught State" edit: this is a joke of course, I am not advocating breaking any laws Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcbethr 42 Posted May 24, 2012 Short answer... I don't think so unless you own property here. I would assume that a hotel could be considered your property if you were staying there. I think you may be able to bring a longarm here (hunters do all the time), but they may have an out of state FID card, but I could be wrong. I think the #1 goal of this state is revenue and there are plenty of people who want to hunt ducks, turkey and deer here in New Jersey. I think that is why the state hasn't restricted longarms the way they have restricted handguns. But for the Long answer: watch this video and share it with your friends: Else, leave the gun at home and enjoy our state. We've got great beaches and diners and you don't have to pump your own gas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midwest 28 Posted May 24, 2012 Howdy from Texas, This summer my fiancee and I are visiting her family. I have a Texas CHL and can carry in every state I pass through and plan to. I read the laws on how to store my pistol while passing through New Jersey (locked away with no ammo) but didn't quickly find a layman's guide to owning one as a non-resident staying for a while. Can I keep my pistol locked away and unloaded at her families house or should I rent a bank lock box in Pennsylvania? Thank you, TX_CHL Renting a bank lock box (safety deposit box) in PA might be your best bet. The only question that needs to be answered. Is it OK to bring a unloaded gun into a bank into PA? And what is the proper way to carry a gun into a bank, in a locked box or concealed in PA? Check the laws and bank policies ahead of time. This method will give you piece of mind and could save you thousands in legal costs. Whatever it costs for the box, it will be worth it. Good Luck and enjoy your trip. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarryLee 0 Posted May 24, 2012 why would you want to bring a pistol to NJ? NJ is very very safe '-) If you are really concerned about your safety in your vehicle, bring a rifle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HarryLee 0 Posted May 24, 2012 Renting a bank lock box (safety deposit box) in PA might be your best bet. The only question that needs to be answered. Is it OK to bring a unloaded gun into a bank into PA? And what is the proper way to carry a gun into a bank, in a locked box or concealed in PA? Check the laws and bank policies ahead of time. can you rent a bank lock box on a daily or weekly basis??? you must read the entire small print for safe deposit boxes at any bank. do banks employ dogs to sniff out drugs, gun powder, bomb materials? it's unlikely but you'll never know & when you know, you'll be in handcuffs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woodentoe 14 Posted May 24, 2012 What about a self storage place? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Malsua 1,422 Posted May 24, 2012 The answer is: Don't bring your hand gun. If you are on a lease of the property, you are considered in possession of it and can legally have a handgun there. You could then travel to a range or gunsmith with it. If you're just staying at a friend's house, it's not legal for you to have a handgun there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alec.mc 180 Posted May 24, 2012 So every competition the is held in NJ and people from out of state attend they are all now risking arrest???? No, because they fall within one of the exceptions of transporting to a range. edit, jon beat me to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NickC 23 Posted May 24, 2012 No, because they fall within one of the exceptions of transporting to a range. edit, jon beat me to it. That makes sense but then the competitor would have to leave the state immediately after the event. Aren't some of the USPSA matches over a couple of days? To be honest, I don't even know why I asked this question. This state just blows. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnp 45 Posted May 24, 2012 That makes sense but then the competitor would have to leave the state immediately after the event. Aren't some of the USPSA matches over a couple of days? To be honest, I don't even know why I asked this question. This state just blows. Haha, +1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alec.mc 180 Posted May 24, 2012 That makes sense but then the competitor would have to leave the state immediately after the event. Aren't some of the USPSA matches over a couple of days? To be honest, I don't even know why I asked this question. This state just blows. then I suppuse the other clause of ' necessary deviations ' would come into play, aka getting a hotel room or something and going back and forth to range and hotel, then back home. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NJDrew1 0 Posted May 24, 2012 See -- a cottage industry. A gunsmith that has safe deposit boxes to store guns for people vacationing in NJ. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
intercooler 41 Posted May 24, 2012 So every competition the is held in NJ and people from out of state attend they are all now risking arrest???? no, going to a shooting event or range is an exempted allowance.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Odin 1 Posted May 24, 2012 That makes sense but then the competitor would have to leave the state immediately after the event. Aren't some of the USPSA matches over a couple of days? To be honest, I don't even know why I asked this question. This state just blows. This is a great question. Is a hotel an approved location? If yes, then why not a friend's house? Rich Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Midwest 28 Posted May 25, 2012 This is a great question. Is a hotel an approved location? If yes, then why not a friend's house? Rich Because the hotel room is being rented out , same like if one has an apartment and pays rent. Staying at a friend's house for free would not past the legalities, unless they are renting a room out for their stay. When one pays for a room or an apartment, it is considered a legal residence. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halbautomatisch 60 Posted May 25, 2012 This is a great question. Is a hotel an approved location? If yes, then why not a friend's house? Rich An argument could be made for a hotel room being a temporary residence because you are taking possession of the room and have certain rights associated with that. When you are staying at someone else's house, you are not taking possession of anything, and have no rights to the space they are letting you use. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mipafox 438 Posted May 25, 2012 Renting a bank lock box (safety deposit box) in PA might be your best bet. The only question that needs to be answered. Is it OK to bring a unloaded gun into a bank into PA? And what is the proper way to carry a gun into a bank, in a locked box or concealed in PA? Check the laws and bank policies ahead of time. Checking the laws in PA won't yield much because there are no laws about carrying a gun in a bank in PA. I've been carrying a loaded sidearm in banks in PA three to eight times a month over several years. Openly carrying during the nine months of the year that I don't need a coat, it might be covered with a coat sometimes during the 3 coldest months. Including the seedy parts of downtown Allentown, although only a few times back when they had the only change machine. A few of my friends do the same. I don't check the policy of any place I carry in PA. Just the law. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
leahcim 680 Posted May 25, 2012 An argument could be made for a hotel room being a temporary residence because you are taking possession of the room and have certain rights associated with that. When you are staying at someone else's house, you are not taking possession of anything, and have no rights to the space they are letting you use. Maybe you should draw up a lease for the space you will be staying in your friend's home and pay him $1 in rent for the time you are there. At least that would make it your legal residence in NJ. I think you could also store it at a range like Shore Shot or Brick Armory for a reasonable fee. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TX_CHL 0 Posted May 25, 2012 Hey all, thank you very much for the replies and I'm glad to see I got a debate on a more interesting topic going. I thought the replies to my post would be e-mailed to me or I would have responded earlier. I guess I'll start looking around at places in PA or find a room to rent. I really appreciate the input. why would you want to bring a pistol to NJ? NJ is very very safe '-) If you are really concerned about your safety in your vehicle, bring a rifle. God I hope you're being facetious. I guess I could check the laws along the way for my converted Saiga. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan 177 Posted May 25, 2012 Checking the laws in PA won't yield much because there are no laws about carrying a gun in a bank in PA. I've been carrying a loaded sidearm in banks in PA three to eight times a month over several years. Openly carrying during the nine months of the year that I don't need a coat, it might be covered with a coat sometimes during the 3 coldest months. Including the seedy parts of downtown Allentown, although only a few times back when they had the only change machine. A few of my friends do the same. I don't check the policy of any place I carry in PA. Just the law. America sounds so nice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites