I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 25, 2012 http://www.classicfirearms.com/long-guns/romanian-wasr10 I was thinking about a saiga in 7.62x39 as my next gun but I didn't want to worry about the conversion and the 922r law. I found this this deal on a pretty good looking romanian ak. Not sure about the 992r compliance but other than that being in question it looks like it's good to go excluding pinning or getting different mags. Also seems like a good deal considering a saiga 7.62 sporter is about $450 plus at least another $150 for the conversion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnp 45 Posted June 25, 2012 Seems like a good deal, if it wasn't for this states stupid laws. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MedicYeti 96 Posted June 25, 2012 PK 90 can order it and make it NJ legal for a really good price. I just learned I need a refrigerator repair person, otherwise I'd have him order it today. Maybe the frige won't be too expensive. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted June 25, 2012 I may order that. It's a nice total package. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted June 25, 2012 Just remember that you get what you pay for. There may be a reason why this is cheaper than a Saiga. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 25, 2012 Just remember that you get what you pay for. There may be a reason why this is cheaper than a Saiga. $499 is more than $450 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 25, 2012 does anyone know if this is 922r compliant or would that need to be done in addition to removing the bayonet lug? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JETagent 1 Posted June 25, 2012 We offer legalizing as well, in Mendham for the northern folk Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted June 25, 2012 $499 is more than $450 Yes, I understand the concept of numbers and their value. But for $499 you get a rifle that is already "built", but that $450 price tag for the Saiga gets you a 10 round mag, a shitty FCG, cheap furniture, and no pistol grip. More money needs to be invested to get a similar rifle to the $499 rifle you listed. I'm trying to inform you that the rifle you listed may not be comparable to the Saiga. I can't comment on the reliability of that rifle or its FCG, but the furniture looks like it's about as sturdy as the stock Saiga furniture. You're taking a gamble that you'll be getting a sub-par rifle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 25, 2012 I absolutly agree with you, and thats part of the reason why I posted it in the deal section. Seems like a pretty good deal minus pinning or ditching the mags and rendoring the bayonet lug useless.... maybe $100 max at a typical ffl? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted June 26, 2012 I absolutly agree with you, and thats part of the reason why I posted it in the deal section. Seems like a pretty good deal minus pinning or ditching the mags and rendoring the bayonet lug useless.... maybe $100 max at a typical ffl? Depending on what works needs to be done, maybe less. You may be able to get Classic Firearms to keep the mags, and take a couple bucks off, then buy your own pinned mags somewhere. I would think the work that needs to be done would cost less than $100, but it's best to shop around your area. And I was actually saying that this is a BAD deal due to the quality of parts you're likely to get Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted June 26, 2012 I'm gonna have a buddy in del order it and just let him keep the mags and cut the bolt off myself. Bam problem solved. I should have done that with my ar but I paid extra for a orc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 27, 2012 isn't that technically considered a straw purchase? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted June 27, 2012 Thats a GP75, total piece of crap. A WASR-10 would be a leauge ahead of that. Just ask Ray Ray. He had one that wouldnt shoot... Also Shawn, cutting the "bolt" (I presume you mean bayonet lug) off would not help you at all since it still needs the brake either welded on or removed with the threads destroyed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I lost my gat piece 0 Posted June 27, 2012 Also Shawn, cutting the "bolt" (I presume you mean bayonet lug) off would not help you at all since it still needs the brake either welded on or removed with the threads destroyed. shouldn't need it. looks like that 45 degree comp is part of the barrel and there's no threads on that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted June 27, 2012 It's not a straw purchase. It's a legal transfer. He buys a gun legal in his state. We convert it in his garage. Then me being a legal gun owner buys it from his and actually transfers ownership. Will have all paperwork and my fid as needed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted June 27, 2012 But if it's a junk guy ill pass and just wait til I run accross one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pew Pew Plates 358 Posted June 27, 2012 shouldn't need it. looks like that 45 degree comp is part of the barrel and there's no threads on that Having had a few through my shop and personally welding the threaded brakes on, I disagree. No AK style rifle has an integral comp like that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishNJ 2 Posted June 27, 2012 It's not a straw purchase. It's a legal transfer. He buys a gun legal in his state. We convert it in his garage. Then me being a legal gun owner buys it from his and actually transfers ownership. Will have all paperwork and my fid as needed. If he's out of state add the FFL fee and NICS to the price. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted June 28, 2012 Why? It's a long gun, do I need to buy a long gun through an ffl through a private party? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
alowerlevel 77 Posted June 28, 2012 Why? It's a long gun, do I need to buy a long gun through an ffl through a private party? AFAIK, Federal law says no face to face private sales of any gun (long gun or handgun) if the partys live in different states. It has to be done through an FFL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
johnp 45 Posted June 28, 2012 2. Long gun purchases by ....A. NJ resident from ........(1) NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ........(2) NJ resident = face to face with a FPID, COE with Photo ID suggested ........(3) Out-of-state dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID ........(4) Out-of-state resident = must be transferred through ............a. NJ dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID or ............b. Out-of-state dealer = NICS check with a FPID, COE and Photo ID Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted June 30, 2012 Not sure why people waste their money on low quality AK's like this one, when you can spend a tad bit more and have a very high quality AK. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vjf915 456 Posted July 1, 2012 It's not a straw purchase. It's a legal transfer. He buys a gun legal in his state. We convert it in his garage. Then me being a legal gun owner buys it from his and actually transfers ownership. Will have all paperwork and my fid as needed. In the context of United States federal gun laws, a straw purchase is defined as any purchase from a dealer holding a Federal Firearms License where the buyer conducting the transaction is acting as a proxy for another person. The law does not distinguish between someone who is purchasing on behalf of a person who legally cannot purchase or possess a firearm, and one who is not. Your friend would be buying a firearm with the intention of transferring it to you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RecessedFilter 222 Posted July 1, 2012 I'm gonna have a buddy in del order it and just let him keep the mags and cut the bolt off myself. Bam problem solved. I should have done that with my ar but I paid extra for a orc I think you mean your friend in Delaware is going to buy it for himself, and maybe if he is interested in selling it after, you could help him modify it to make it NJ legal and then buy it from him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shawnmoore81 623 Posted July 1, 2012 Choice B would be the correct occurrence. But since I was told its not a good gun I'm gonna pass. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray Ray 3,566 Posted July 1, 2012 Thats a GP75, total piece of crap. A WASR-10 would be a leauge ahead of that. Just ask Ray Ray. He had one that wouldnt shoot... WASR-10 all the way. Or see what JETagent or PK-90 can get you that would be just as good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DargZ 5 Posted July 2, 2012 How do you know that is a GP75? The website says it is a WASR-10. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites